Korg Oasys discontinued as of July 2008 (?)

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:56 am

Cool thought, franzl!

Ok, Pandel - I see your point. I just got tired of the "discontinued" discussion. I agree: it's disappointing to have paid lots of money for an open architecture flagship and 2 years later one has to watch cheaper non-open architecture synths being upgraded with things having been asked for many times AND read "Korg listen to their customers". Well - perhaps I haven't spent enough time in the M3 forum-section and overheard their cries for a piano-roll. But I've heard this wish here a little bit earlier ... that's for sure.

If you look at the car-industry the new stuff is usually implemented in the top-class models first. Later the stuff that made sense is implemented in middle and again later in the smallest models. With Brass or KO it was the same. But with drum-track and sequencer-updates it was not even the other way round (yet). I still would have bought my Oasys if I'd known that - I'm happy with it!

But I'm not happy with the Oasys falling behind the M3 - it should be ahead of it as long as it is called "Flagship".

mdh · Post by **mdh** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:14 am

Did it ever occur to you that the OASYS might be getting these features, they're just making sure its all worthy of the name and reputation?

Now, I know about half as much as the next guy, but seriously... all this whining is pathetic. If you don't like your OASYS, sell it and get something else. If you don't even own an OASYS, quit the fantasy bitching.

jerrythek · Post by **jerrythek** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:10 pm

Folks:

from a post I made at Karma-Lab:

As you know, Korg does not speak about future plans, nor plans in progress. And none of us involved in the distribution, or development of Korg products can speak "out of school" as well. I can't violate that policy as I am an employee!

But I think it should be pretty clear to anyone with a business sense that Korg is working to drive even more sales of our current products, as well as supporting our customers. We're not a large company, so the balance of resources that work on products has to be spread around our various projects, both new, existing, and older. It's a balancing act and we try to do our best.

Regards,

Jerry

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:23 pm

mdh wrote:Did it ever occur to you that the OASYS might be getting these features, they're just making sure its all worthy of the name and reputation?

Now, I know about half as much as the next guy, but seriously... all this whining is pathetic. If you don't like your OASYS, sell it and get something else. If you don't even own an OASYS, quit the fantasy bitching.

Well, I think I wrote pretty clearly that I own an Oasys and like it and would buy it again right above your post.

I certainly do hope that Korg will include successfull add-ons of non-flagships into its flagship. But at the same time I believe Korg is a professional company and won't launch features in its big sellers like M3 that are not worth the name and reputation. So, why not launch them in the flagship first? Jerry's post is an answer to this question.

Davidb · Post by **Davidb** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:24 pm

Charlie wrote: I agree: it's disappointing to have paid lots of money for an open architecture flagship and 2 years later one has to watch cheaper non-open architecture synths being upgraded with things having been asked for many times AND read "Korg listen to their customers". Well - perhaps I haven't spent enough time in the M3 forum-section and overheard their cries for a piano-roll. But I've heard this wish here a little bit earlier ... that's for sure.

If you look at the car-industry the new stuff is usually implemented in the top-class models first. Later the stuff that made sense is implemented in middle and again later in the smallest models. With Brass or KO it was the same.
But with drum-track and sequencer-updates it was not even the other way round.

Besides, theres another consequence about all this:

How all this M3 updates will affect the OASYS in the workstation market?

It will be eating dust all around the road behind the M3.
And thats not good for the OASYS future.

The costumers in the market now for a *Music Workstation* who turn its attention to Korg, will go for the M3 instead of the OASYS hands down.

Why?
M3 has the most recent Sequencer updates, its MIDI editiors with Drag and Drop Touchscreen funcionality , MIDI sisex editing, etc, that the OASYS does not have. (Not to mention 480 ppq, Cue lists, Drum Track,etc.)
Plus, they are geting goodies like some OASYS-driven libraries for free.

...a no brainer for anyone looking for a Korg Workstation nowdays, and all for 1/3 of the OASYS price.

All this will affect the OASYS sales for sure, it will sell a lot less that it is doing now.

With this kind of decissions by Korg, the OASYS is going to a discontinued future.
So it leads me to think if is this the Korg main Idea, ´cos if it is not, all this is not very well planned, IMHO.

If not, what´s the point behind all this?

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:39 pm

No matter how good the M3 has just become (very good indeed!), we still have the AL-1, Wavesequencing, MOD-7 and other gems that are only available in the Oasys

I think our OS 2.0 update will be coming and include far more, hence taking longer to deliver than the M3 one.

Grapite · Post by **Grapite** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:10 pm

Agreed Daz, I think young Dan and company may have some nice things coming for the O that will quiet the masses!
Regards

curvebender · Post by **curvebender** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:22 pm

Daz wrote:I think our OS 2.0 update will be coming and include far more, hence taking longer to deliver than the M3 one.

This is what I believe too.

It's gonna be good!!

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:26 pm

Grapite wrote:Agreed Daz, I think young Dan and company may have some nice things coming for the O that will quiet the masses!
Regards

I can't imagine Dan giving up on this project so easily !

nitecrawler · Post by **nitecrawler** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:27 pm

What's the term? Save the best for last! Yes that's it!

nitecrawler

curvebender · Post by **curvebender** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:51 pm

nitecrawler wrote:What's the term? Save the best for last! Yes that's it!

nitecrawler

Pa dum dum pschhh!!

curvebender · Post by **curvebender** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:00 pm

Davidb wrote: How all this M3 updates will affect the OASYS in the workstation market?

It will be eating dust all around the road behind the M3.
And thats not good for the OASYS future.

The costumers in the market now for a *Music Workstation* who turn its attention to Korg, will go for the M3 instead of the OASYS hands down.

...a no brainer for anyone looking for a Korg Workstation nowdays, and all for 1/3 of the OASYS price.

I think that most people that consider an M3 look at Motifs and Fantoms rather than the Oasys which is much much more expensive. I mean, why would you only consider Korg products when you're in the market for a work station?..

Here in Sweden, the M3 is a fourth of the price of an Oasys, so....

Plus, they are geting goodies like some OASYS-driven libraries for free.

Why shouldn't they???

Kohasis · Post by **Kohasis** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:14 pm

Hi!

I have just (Late August 2008) bough my OSASYS 88 from 4SOund in Stockholm but have not received it yet. Instead I have the one from store to use until mine is delivered from Korg. But I have been told that Korg can not give a delivery time. And for three weeks now I have not even got a message to when the delivery may be made.

But I have not yet received any message that the OASYS has discontinued. I like to think that at least the Korg dealer would be told if the model they sell is discontinued? Or...

On the contrary I was told that there would probably be an OS upgrade this autumn. If this was a fact, a rumour heard by the seller or "sales talk" based on wishful thinking I do not know.

Now, I do not know if this is a clue to what is happening or not. You may speculate as good as I may. But still, until the retailer gives me any other information I am expecting to receive my OASYS 88 as soon as one is available. Hopefully for me this means one from the assembly line at Korg and not a left over from the shelf of another dealer somewhere in the world

.

Well - Anyhow I am unable to regret buying the OASYS 88. The M3 was not an option when I compared it to the OASYS. Nor the Roland Phantom. The Yamaha Motif could have been my choice but I whent for the instrument that blew me away and still does. So, I really really hope that Korg will continue to develop the OASYS to give me even more value for my bucks

!

MIDIguru · Post by **MIDIguru** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 9:04 pm

If Korg can give the Oasys the new M3 sequencer along with a D16/32XD style audio recorder (currently missing overview with waveforms, good metering, and virtual tracks), I think it will be well worth it if it takes a little more time. If Korg Japan handles the sequencer, as has been stated in past, then Korg USA is probably cooking up something as well (such as EXi's or EXf's). Let's hope there's two big things coming soon.

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 1:53 am

franzlp,

How about learning to use the paragraph key once in a while?

It's difficult to read all run together!

Ken