making a loop

[MagpieIndustries]

Hey,
I wish to do what seems like a very simple thing, I want to seamlessly go from playing live music, into playing a loop. This seems like such an easy thing to do with my KP3 but I am tearing my head out trying to get it working properly.

When I tempo sync it to my korg electribe the sync seems pretty stable (not so with other midi gear sadly). I have the output from the electribe going into the KP3 directly. The dry signal is initially audible through the KP3. So far so good. When I start sampling, it syncs with the start of the bar, and then continues to the end ok. But now, the newly recorded sample starts playing back and most annoyingly, the dry signal is ALSO audible! I want it to drop out exactly when the sample begins playing. Also, the recorded sample seems to have a latency in it, cos its playing back slightly out of sync (some milliseconds) causing Very obvious flanging effect against the dry signal.

I have a mixer, and have tried with the KP3 as a send effect also, but I still have to kill the dry signal manually when the sample starts playing back. As I dont want silence at the end of the loop I am forced into killing the dry signal late, producing an entirely unacceptable flangey kickdrum.

I am hoping that I have missed something in the setup or signal routing? If the KP3 can't handle switching to looped playback in a seamless manner, can you guys recommend a hardware product that can, and can midi sync and quantize the sampling start and stop?

[salamanderanagram]

someone replied to your same question on the electribe board

"so, what i usually do is:
start sampling the phrase i like to capture.
in the moment when the sampled phrase will start playing back automatically, i simply switch the line/mic-switch from line to mic, all input to the kp3 will be cut off and only the sampled phrase will be audible...
-> no phasing/flanging effect. "

that is how it's done.

if the kp3 muted the input as soon as it had a sample then you would only ever be able to take 1 sample at a time with it. it's built this way for a reason. you have to somehow stop the audio from playing or stop the kp3 from receiving it. both are possible, both can easily be achieved.

[MagpieIndustries]

Hitting the mic/line switch is no different than killing the dry signal at my mixer. This solution is not really acceptable, I need something that can do this automatically, my hands are very often busy right at this point (the end of a 16 beat phrase is where the little changes kick in)

[salamanderanagram]

in that case you will either need a footpedal or some other type of hardware.