Even though it's the end...

[The Keyboard Wizard]

...I am so happy that I was lucky enough to finally land a functioning OASYS 88 with all the bells and whistles.

It will definitely have a place in synth history right beside the Synclaviers and Fairlights as one of the most amazing keyboards ever.

I will be posting some footage on YouTube really soon featuring the big O and some pretty ripping synthwork for my band LWE's next record. If you haven't heard of us, just Google Lucas, White and Edsey or ProgRock Records.

Glad to finally join the ranks of you fine peeps.

FL
www.franklucas.net

[Daz]

Its not over until the proverbial weight challenged lady does her thing

Glad to have you in our ranks and looking forward to those vids

Daz.

[markuk]

People think that the Oasys might be finished because of the motherboard.
This is the only reason and nothing else.
Why would korg bring out a completly new workstation because the motherboard is out of date?
Wouldnt it make more sense to add a new board to the oasys that can handle more memory and then they have 3000 customers that will possibly upgrade there oasys boards.

[robkeith]

I wish people would stop! and I mean stop staying the O is finished. I love my O, but I bought it for what it was then just over 18 months ago, and what it will become with future upgrades. The only possible inhibitant to the current model may indeed be the mboard, but as we know in computer basics thats just hardware that can be upgraded. I think the doom sayers are the ones that want it to be finished for thier own reasons. My hope and belief is that the O will continue to be upgraded with software and hardware if necessary, and indeed the whispers seem to suggest that this is true. If Korg want to continue to sell more M3's and the new synth the M50, it makes sence that they will continue to develop the big O, because that is what all others below it are predicated upon. So come on guys, its not over until Korg makes official notices. So dont try to pre emt announcements that may be way off the mark

[curvebender]

Welcome onboard Keyboard wizard!

[Swampfox]

I've always been one to think of the glass as half full rather than half empty...especially when talking about the future of the Oasys...

How could an A+ company (KORG) do something as off the wall as discontinue the greatest keyboard in there current arsenal? That just doesn't make sense.

Lets be real--- eg: Digidesigns LE is to Digidesigns HD AS Korgs M3 is to Korgs Oasys. With that said, PT's HD will always be the flagship to Digidesign...and the Korg Oasys is definitely the flagship of Korg keyboards.

Sure adjustment will have to be made soon due to the mother board situation, but I can't imagine Korg doing anything hasty or crazy like issuing a discontinuance of the Oasys...not with the Oasys no no no. We just have to be a bit more patient. Remember-- We've all spent a pretty penny on these bad boys and don't think KORG doesn't know that nor appreciate it. Although everyones individual desires pertaining to the Oasys "possibly" may not be met...the Oasys WILL live on and continue to expand... and, while the possibility of Korg letting us down is still a reality, it's a reality I cannot believe.

Personally I look forward to KORG filling up my glass all the way...soon.

[curvebender]

Personally I look forward to KORG filling up my glass all the way...soon.

Cheers!!

[markuk]

If it didnt have a pc motherboard inside, people wouldnt even be talking about it being discontinued.
Why would you discontinue a workstation when all the others dont even come close to it.

[Davidb]

How could an A+ company (KORG) do something as off the wall as discontinue the greatest keyboard in there current arsenal? That just doesn't make sense.

... We just have to be a bit more patient.
Remember-- We've all spent a pretty penny on these bad boys and don't think KORG doesn't know that nor appreciate it. Although everyones individual desires pertaining to the Oasys "possibly" may not be met...the Oasys WILL live on and continue to expand... and, while the possibility of Korg letting us down is still a reality, it's a reality I cannot believe.

Personally I look forward to KORG filling up my glass all the way...soon.

Amen, dude.
And very well said.

Lets hope for that glass all the way up!

[EJ2]

Hey, Wiz,
Sorry for the late welcoming. I've been in Europe for the past couple of weeks. Just got back and noticed your post. You are absolutely right. I feel the same way - fortunate to have been able to put the OASYS in my studio, where it will remain the main hub of my work for sometime to come regardless of what Korg intends. Best music equipment investment I ever made.

Welcome to the O-Club.
Cheers,
Eric

[tonecre8]

...
Lets be real--- eg: Digidesigns LE is to Digidesigns HD AS Korgs M3 is to Korgs Oasys. With that said, PT's HD will always be the flagship to Digidesign...and the Korg Oasys is definitely the flagship of Korg keyboards. ..

LOL this analogy is SOOO full of fail. When have you ever known an HD user to covet any technology an LE user has received? I mean I do love my Oasys but let's be real. If it were the "flagship" as you say, then that ideology would disseminate from Korg by way of introducing new features first to said flagship and make the supposed LE users wait in limbo.

Sad truth is (depending on how you look at it), Korg is selling an X factor more M3's than they are Oasys'. Do I have any numbers to prove that? Well No. But most of the studios I have visited in the south east has had an M3 sitting someplace. By comparison, I'm the only on that has an Oasys. Which brings me to another point.

As much as we Oasys owners know that feature wise the Oasys is a better instrument, a majority of those features don't even matter to a majority of prospective buyers.

I recently purchased an M3 at a great price, loaded. So now I have both boards in my studio but take a guess at which one gets used more often.

No my friend, I think the M3 is the new king and Korg knows it. Now that doesn't mean that I think the O has been killed, but I do think it has become "niche". I hate to propagate negative speculation but sometimes the passion in this forum ostracizes it from the real world.

[Kevin Nolan]

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No my friend, I think the M3 is the new king and Korg knows it. Now that doesn't mean that I think the O has been killed, but I do think it has become "niche". I hate to propagate negative speculation but sometimes the passion in this forum ostracizes it from the real world.

Your entire post validates why we are disproportionately passionate (and right to be so) about the OASYS - your final quote (above) confirms it. What "real world" do you mean - studios that produce commercial music using Reason and all of that perhaps? Here's another real world I'm involved with - the classical and orchestral world. In that world, not one single composer, conductor or player I know gives one iota of thought or care about any electronic technology, ever. They simply do not look on any electronic musical instrument as real musical instruments. They look down their noses at the whole of the world we find precious. And their stand point is understandable, even if I do not agree with it. To them, any sampled intsrument, no matter how good, is simply a pale shadow of the real thing, with no character, and no capacity or scope for ultimate performance. From their perspective of performing classical masterpieces, they are totally correct.

But from another perspective they are completely wrong. Carlos, Tomita, Jarre, Vangelis and then Stockhausen, CCRMA and IRCAM to name but a few verify that they are indeed ignorant of the other capabilities that exist within electronic instruments. But I'm also completely convinced of this – if Bach, Mozart or Beethoven were alive today they would be the first to embrace every new innovative electroic instrument. In this regard, there is another 'real world' – Dan’s, Stephen Kay's, Daz's, Sharp's, E2J's, Karo's - and everyone else on this forum who 'get' the real virtue of pushing the envelope through the likes of OASYS and Karma. OASYS pushed the envelope. That's it's significant attribute to me. If I have to champion that virtue within a small community who seem insular, self absorbed and so on - then so be it. All that means is that I'm part of a community making the rules; and breaking the rules. And it's every bit the 'real world' as the one you refer to.

My classical musician colleagues who do not 'get' electronic instrument only indicates the practicalities of life - that everyone cant 'get' everything. But this does not invalidate electroic instruments OASYS is. In like manner , while M3 has its own unique identity and following, this neither invalidate what OASYS has delivered, nor the passion for it found here. It's OK for you not to get it; but dont start telling us what 'the real world' is.

Kevin.

[Kontrol49]

I would say that any musician,classical or not who looks down their noses at Electronic Music,or any music that utilises electronic equipment are blatantly arrogant to what the emotive expression of playing is about,just because the synthesizer is not revered under the same type of playing technique as say a Guitar or Violin,doesn't mean that any music which uses those synthesized sounds can't be emotive or meaningful,or that samples are lifeless and unispiring,well they maybe if your a traditional player and not using sample devices,but the destination of the sound is still the same,after all the Instruments are the only thing Electronic,the Musician is not,and the Device is simply a vessel to channel those energies,whether that be a synthesizer or Acoustic guitar.

I think that many of the classical musicians,seem to look onto electronic devices as a nail in their coffins,even after all these years of electronic instruments.

I can recall the days when the synthesizer was seen as a replacement for an orchestra,many of the traditional classical reportoire saw it as a threat to there Jobs,which basically was the biggest load of crap this side of the Moon,electronic instruments were never seen as a replacement,they merely replicated traditional sounds,all they ever did was give the user the Impression of the sound,nothing more,I could never understand why a Violin player would see a Synthesizer as a threat?

the Musician still has that emotional attachment regardless of what instrument electronic or acoustic,and People such as Jarre or Vangelis proved that,take a listen to the Symphonic album of Jarre's Music,this proves that so long as the song has a good theme it can work just as well in a traditional instrument sense as it can in its original eletronic material.

All that seperates one musical Instrument/device from another is Human intervention

[Swampfox]

tonecre8,


My analogy made perfect sense if you go back to the days before LE... Digidesign was only TDM at the time---and if you didn't shell out big bucks, pro tools wasn't for you. Digidesign created its own problem...but Digidesign's problem wasn't that they created a product that wasn't great in use and efficiency ( Standard if you will )...the problem was they couldn't sell a TDM/HD system to just anyone...they had to make there Digidesign ideas affordable...hence, the 001/LE... Initially none of us TDM users really cared...but lets be real...the 002, and 003, now leaders of the LE systems, have become very powerful. With new track updaters, an LE user can have vast amounts of track counts at there disposal...external hardware devices that give LE systems boosts of external DSP power like never before!! As a Digidesign/HD/TDM user for over 15 years I could list over a dozen things that have had my blood boiling over the last several years because of the consistant upgrages they've made to the LE system. Yet after thinking about it---Digidesign was smart. They expanded there market...within 3 years of the introduction to the 001, hords of people now owned some sort of PT's system. Pretty smart if you ask me. They quadrupled there annual income with the introduction of the 001 and 002...and because of this demand on there product, they continually make advancements to there products from the 003 to ICON to PCIe Magma Chssis, the up and coming new I/O for HD...ALL OF THEM. Basically, they expanded themselves by making something affordable but still great......................BUT!!!!!!!!!................No matter what, the HD system will ALWAY top the LE system. Always!!!

So no matter what anyone tries to say about the M3...it still paralles an LE system to me. The M3, although great and powerful, can't come close to the exotic power of an Oasys...sorry...nope! Again hence---Oasys to HD as M3 to LE...

Korg is smart in doing what they're doing. Its important for those who can't afford an Oasys to also have an opportunity to see just what the engineers working for Korg are doing with there great products and great ideas...what better way, than to launch the M3?! Get these awesome tools into every house-hold if possible!!...Good job Korg, I mean that! Sure I see a lot of M3's around, more than the Oasys...but c'mon...we're talking a 1/3 of the price with 1/10 of the ability of the Oasys...Not everyone can afford and HD system or an Oasys...both are top pro line products for true professonals. Still, as I said, I'm glad to see them introduce the M3...

So...Keep selling those M3's...keep updating the software to the M3...in the end it just means more goodies for us HD users...oops, I meant Oasys users.

I'm not budging...The Oasys is a bad motha @*#&$^!!!! Shut yo mouth...I was just talking about the Oasys...

[Swampfox]

...And just for the record Kevin...I did not write that last quote you posted stating that I wrote it. I'm sure it was a mistake...that particular quote you used was written by tonecre8...