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I've often wondered...

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I've been surfing various music-related forums for 5+ years now and have read some interesting threads. Of course ones that boast of grandiose experiences always cause the raising of an eyebrow. Statements like:

"I remember when we opened for Foreigner"; or "Our drummer is good friends with ___________" (insert famous musician); or "Kurzweil used one of my friend's concert photos in their recent ad."

Granted, we have professional musicians visiting the forums, but has anyone else rolled their eyes when reading such statements?

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If its direct first-hand, as opposed to "my friend's...", it pricks my ears up a touch, and I tend to listen closer to them to glean any helpful tidbits.

Of course if it's just boasting followed by them not wanting to divulge further or help anyone, then certainly it gets the roll-eyes.
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Synthoid, why roll your eyes? People do have these experiences, myself included. Er, you're not rolling 'em now, are you?:D
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It depends. I have shared some of my experiences with some who found the events interesting. On the other hand I would never "name" drop to represent some sort of credential for myself. The things other people have accomplished are their own. Throwing yourself into their mix to impress someone is ridiculous. And I assume that is why you roll your eyes.

And I roll mine when it is presented in that light. Sometimes it can be welcomed, especially if another producer comes up to you and says "Oh you don't wanna work with ___________ because he is the biggest prick ever! I worked with him, I should know!' Then that story helps. ;)

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JonSolo wrote: Throwing yourself into their mix to impress someone is ridiculous. And I assume that is why you roll your eyes.
That's most often the case, yes. Like I said above, I'm not saying these experiences don't happen, just some people's descriptions are often more on the lines of; "hey look who I know."

I have met a few famous musicians, but I've never jammed with them or went out for coffee.


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Here's another question:

How is it that some people (who are not employees of Korg, Yamaha, Roland, etc.) get their hands on pre-release gear?

Often in rather obscure parts of the world, I may add. :?
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Synthoid wrote:Here's another question:

How is it that some people (who are not employees of Korg, Yamaha, Roland, etc.) get their hands on pre-release gear?

Often in rather obscure parts of the world, I may add. :?
It's actually very easy. They just happened to have " A friend or friends" who are employees of korg...etc! And good friends share, you know!!!

Obscure parts of the world? hmmm :?: Name one part of the world that is obscure,please.
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By obscure I am sure he means smaller countries that are usually LAST on the list to receive these items due to the minuscule number of sales received from those countries.

I want to know the same thing. If the U.S. and Japan have the top sales and usually get the items first, how does someone in Kazakhstan have the product four months before it even gets released? :lol:

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JonSolo wrote:By obscure I am sure he means smaller countries that are usually LAST on the list to receive these items due to the minuscule number of sales received from those countries.

I want to know the same thing. If the U.S. and Japan have the top sales and usually get the items first, how does someone in Kazakhstan have the product four months before it even gets released? :lol:

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Because it makes so much sense! In those "Obscure" countries there's a lot less control over inventory and how things are supposed to happen. Whereas in the US and Japan, you can't do that as easily. Then here you have lawsuit and stuff, but in "Obscure countries" they haven't heard of this magic word...same thing with software.
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Synthoid wrote:Here's another question:

How is it that some people (who are not employees of Korg, Yamaha, Roland, etc.) get their hands on pre-release gear?

Often in rather obscure parts of the world, I may add. :?
Are you referring to people who work on soundsets for Korg/Yamaha/Roland, etc? I guess people who are known to the company and have worked with/for the company before get prototypes for creating soundsets, so when the final synth is ready it also has a large pallete of programmed preset sounds ready for it.

Otherwise, I don't know of any people who get gear before the official release?
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Assyrianpianist wrote:Because it makes so much sense! In those "Obscure" countries there's a lot less control over inventory and how things are supposed to happen.
That does not explain anything. How can they have less control over something that they do not even HAVE yet? That is the question. It is not a matter of release in the States verses that country, it is a matter of being released from the factory at all!

If Korg has NOT released a product from it's factory...maybe even a product that is NOT yet been mass produced...how does it show up in some REMOTE hand in some obscure part of the world?

Software is a matter of downloading...you could crack a server and get that. But not hardware.

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Assyrianpianist wrote:
Synthoid wrote:Here's another question:

How is it that some people (who are not employees of Korg, Yamaha, Roland, etc.) get their hands on pre-release gear?

Often in rather obscure parts of the world, I may add. :?
It's actually very easy. They just happened to have " A friend or friends" who are employees of korg...etc! And good friends share, you know!!!
I would think that employees "sharing" would be a violation of confidentiality agreements.
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JonSolo wrote:
Assyrianpianist wrote:Because it makes so much sense! In those "Obscure" countries there's a lot less control over inventory and how things are supposed to happen.
That does not explain anything. How can they have less control over something that they do not even HAVE yet? That is the question. It is not a matter of release in the States verses that country, it is a matter of being released from the factory at all!

If Korg has NOT released a product from it's factory...maybe even a product that is NOT yet been mass produced...how does it show up in some REMOTE hand in some obscure part of the world?

Software is a matter of downloading...you could crack a server and get that. But not hardware.

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I wasn't talking about a product that it hasn't even been produced yet!
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Re: I've often wondered...

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Synthoid wrote:I've been surfing various music-related forums for 5+ years now and have read some interesting threads. Of course ones that boast of grandiose experiences always cause the raising of an eyebrow. Statements like:

"I remember when we opened for Foreigner"; or "Our drummer is good friends with ___________" (insert famous musician); or "Kurzweil used one of my friend's concert photos in their recent ad."

Granted, we have professional musicians visiting the forums, but has anyone else rolled their eyes when reading such statements?

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I guess it depends on what people are posting about. The fact is that people do work with Pro musicians and they are just people.. I could write a big long list of people I have worked with but out of respect to them I won't ever...not even to people I meet at parties etc......( cue rolling eyes..!)

On the other point it is rare that we lend product to people prior to release unless they are developing sounds etc. Each distributor buys product from Korg Inc in Japan. What they do with that product is up to them. They will on many occasions be asked not to talk about something until a release date is given....

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