Followup on Loud Wave Shaper Effect

[JoeJack101]

When people get angry, they sometimes say outrageous things like I did in my previous thread titled "Oasys lawsuit." Obviously I am not after any money, but I do want Korg to be aware of the Wave Shaper problem and I hope they address it.

Please don't call me a waste of bandwidth. If you understood the importance of a musician's and composer's hearing, you'd agree with me posting about the Wave Shaper problem.

[Sharp]

When people get angry, they sometimes say outrageous things like I did in my previous thread titled "Oasys lawsuit."

Your title was outrageous.

Please don't call me a waste of bandwidth.

I didn't say you where a waste of bandwidth, I said the thread was.
There is a very big difference here, which is if you where a waste of bandwidth, I would have already banned you.

There's no problem with bringing a problem to KORG's attention on the forum, it's how you decided to go about it is the problem. Don't ever come here again and threaten people of Lawsuits.

If you understood the importance of a musician's and composer's hearing, you'd agree with me posting about the Wave Shaper problem.

Your missing the point. The problem you mentioned is not the issue, it was your approach.

Sharp

[franzlp]

I totally agree with you Sharp. You know some people in this forum may perceive the attitude of some of us as "elite" because we dont' express ourselves in a brash and uncontrolled manner, but we try to treat each other with consideration and thoughtfulness. None of us know it all and it doesn't matter if we are succeessful with our music or instrument we need to be considerate and not brash and pompous. I'd say if you have an attitude problem leave it behind as we don't care about that here. We all want to share in the knowledge and growth of the Oasys. We don't care if you have a record deal of 30 keyboards or have as many rings on your fingers as Liberace. Please leave the attitutude at the door and bring in your creativity and contribution.

[JoeJack101]

Instead of giving any attention to the problem, you guys focus on criticizing my post and threatening to ban me. It is interesting that you guys think you are so elite.

I am just a guy who uses headphones at a moderate volume level. The Oasys comes with a headphone jack on the front. Your Oasys might not even be doing what mine does.

Let's focus on the issue here. This could be a serious problem for somebody else in the future, and it needs to be resolved.

[danatkorg]

Instead of giving any attention to the problem, you guys focus on criticizing my post and threatening to ban me. It is interesting that you guys think you are so elite.

I am just a guy who uses headphones at a moderate volume level. The Oasys comes with a headphone jack on the front. Your Oasys might not even be doing what mine does.

Let's focus on the issue here. This could be a serious problem for somebody else in the future, and it needs to be resolved.

What version of the OS are you using?

- Dan

[JoeJack101]

What version of the OS are you using?
- Dan

I am using: 1.3.1

[Stralner]

When people get angry, they sometimes say outrageous things like I did in my previous thread titled "Oasys lawsuit."

Your title was outrageous.

Please don't call me a waste of bandwidth.

I didn't say you where a waste of bandwidth, I said the thread was.
There is a very big difference here, which is if you where a waste of bandwidth, I would have already banned you.

There's no problem with bringing a problem to KORG's attention on the forum, it's how you decided to go about it is the problem. Don't ever come here again and threaten people of Lawsuits.

If you understood the importance of a musician's and composer's hearing, you'd agree with me posting about the Wave Shaper problem.

Your missing the point. The problem you mentioned is not the issue, it was your approach.

Sharp

Sharp, just for the record, I realy think you need to relax and read your post again. what you are saying here is an attack on the fredom of speech, something that CHOULD be banned from here, always.

The guy´s statement of a lawsuit is legal and fair in the meaning that he has the rights to say it, that is not a threat, it´s a statement.

Let me ask you something!

When did stephen kay EVER close a thread? I can´t recall he ever did.
The tone on Karma labs forum is generaly nicer than here, why..because Stephens tone is. The forum is never better than the moderators.

You are maby insulted by this, but it is the truth and I get angry when pople are not alowed to say what ever they what, as long as the do not threaten or insult people, and I can´t say Korg is people, that is a company. What you are saying is just besauce he is saying something you dount like to hear, or want to hear. Thats not forum rules, thats
Sharp rules.

Also, what god will it do to banned a member, a new email adress and another username and the guy is back right?

Now I´m not surporting the guy´s statement, he could have done it differently, but he did not breake forum rules. He still spoke nicely and of curse he was a little angry, I can´t blame him. It´s not funny with those loud sounds in your ears.

Korg forums are great, the surport here is great, so why not make the moderators great as well....just a surgestion

See you arround.

[tcornishmn]

I love how people try to stretch the USA's 1st ammendment to things it doesn't apply to. The first ammendment only applies in the USA, first of all, and only applies to public expression of speech - i.e. on the sidewalk.

If you knock on my door and when I answer start using profanity and insults about my family, I'm going to slam the door in your face and call the police. You have a right to say those things (within certain limits) in a public place, but NOT ON MY PROPERTY.

KorgForums is private property, and therefore the moderators can, and should, do whatever they wish to build and foster the community they want to do.

I think Sharp and Daz have done a great job for the almost 4 years I've been on this forum, and I think they have used great judgement in letting dissenting opinions stand, and only acting in the extreme minority of cases.

[JoeJack101]

I love how people try to stretch the USA's 1st ammendment to things it doesn't apply to.

Stralner made no claim it was legally enforceable online, although the U.S. Constitution emphasizes the value of freedom of expression. I appreciate the remarks Stralner made.

Let's try to keep this discussion focused on the Oasys.

If anyone has anything to add on this thread about this insert effect, the volume level, what is can be used for, and ways of protecting hearing, that is what this thread is for. Perhaps if I always set up a Total Effect with Stereo Master Limiter this will totally 100% prevent any burst of volume on my headphones? Does anyone know?

[Sharp]

Hi Stralner.

Thats not forum rules, thats
Sharp rules.

This is not open to debate.

I will not allow someone to post in anger content of threatening lawsuits for what I consider to be completely ridiculous, or in anyway in conflict of interest on how this forum should run.

It is my job to make these decisions and I do it with a cool head and no doubt in my mind. If you feel that this is in some way an infringement of your rights as an American citizen, then I'm sorry but your wrong.

This is the last I want to see on the subject.

Sharp.

[danatkorg]

FWIW, I think that Sharp and Daz have always done a *fantastic* job here.

Best regards,

Dan

[JoeJack101]

This is the last I want to see on the subject.

I agree to keep my posts focused on the Oasys.

What about on my question about using a Total Effect -- Master Stereo Limiter? Anyone?

[t_tangent]

I guess the best thing would be to try it out. Try putting a limiter across the total effect and set the volume to low to start, and see if that works.

And let us know what you find out

[kenackr]

Sharp,

I believe Stralner is not an American citizen but Danish.

Sorry to mention it, but I don't want anyone to think this guy is American.

Ken

[JoeJack101]

I am a lawer, and I will take this issue up with Korg managesment.

So I would like ¨Dan to tell me public: how do I get in contact with Korg managesment and the C.O?

Stalner, please do not contact Korg over this. Do not take up this as an issue.