"importing a groove" problem?

Martinkorg · Post by **Martinkorg** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:12 am

I know how to import a wave loop and i've done it a thousand times. Today though, a new problem poped up. I have a few drum loops in wave format (44.1 ,16 ). I loaded them with no problem. Then save them to user locations..etc Then, i import the first one to the percussion track of a style and once i hit play to audition the style with the new groove, PA 800 freezes. it doesnt' let you do anything. it keeps saying the arranger is running, but in fact it is not. I thought probably my file was corrupted, so i made some fresh new copies, and they're perfectly fine. Still, i get the same "arranger is running" message and the keyboard freezes again. What could possibly cause this?

The second thing that i noticed was when i tried to delete the samples and reload the new loops one more time. i deleted them from media menu. Then i went to sound record mode and hit "delete unassigned samples..." , but then i noticed that samples are still there. If i want to delete them one by one, is going to take me couple of days. Why they can't be deleted all at once?

Martinkorg · Post by **Martinkorg** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:29 am

i'm not getting that error message anymore, so that's good. But i still can't delete those unwanetd samples. By the way, if you load a sample over another sample, does that delete the previous one with all of its contents? I tried and it didn't. I still see the samples of the previous loop in there. That delete unassigned function doesn't work in my keyboard.

nikola81 · Post by **nikola81** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:33 am

I had a similar problem, i edited some audio in soundforge and i saved it in a wave format but not windows but some other. When i loaded and sliced that groove my keyboard freezed, after that i tried with windows wav and it works.

Martinkorg · Post by **Martinkorg** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 2:39 am

nikola81 wrote:I had a similar problem, i edited some audio in soundforge and i saved it in a wave format but not windows but some other. When i loaded and sliced that groove my keyboard freezed, after that i tried with windows wav and it works.

What about deleting unwanted samples? do you have problems with those too? If you load a loop, and later on you decide to erase it, how do you get rid of it altogether,without erasing those sliced samples one by one manually?

TANIA · Post by **TANIA** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:25 am

Martinkorg wrote:
nikola81 wrote:I had a similar problem, i edited some audio in soundforge and i saved it in a wave format but not windows but some other. When i loaded and sliced that groove my keyboard freezed, after that i tried with windows wav and it works.
What about deleting unwanted samples? do you have problems with those too? If you load a loop, and later on you decide to erase it, how do you get rid of it altogether,without erasing those sliced samples one by one manually?

Martin,
I remember a thread that was posted while ago about this. People had a hard time getting rid of unused samples. I don't think if a solid answer was provided to the problem. Also i remember that Rob confirmed having the same problem, and he said he was going to contact Korg about this. Maybe he could comment on this?

nikola81 · Post by **nikola81** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:30 am

Martinkorg wrote:
nikola81 wrote:I had a similar problem, i edited some audio in soundforge and i saved it in a wave format but not windows but some other. When i loaded and sliced that groove my keyboard freezed, after that i tried with windows wav and it works.
What about deleting unwanted samples? do you have problems with those too? If you load a loop, and later on you decide to erase it, how do you get rid of it altogether,without erasing those sliced samples one by one manually?

Well for now i don't have a lot of samples in pa800 since i have a TR on top and it has a sampler too... So i didn't have to erase samples, sorry i can't help you with that...

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:44 am

Hi Martin,

Can you confirm that you are running OS version 2.01 ?

I thought that the bug with deleting unassigned samples had been fixed. I did previously bring it to Korg's attention. If it hasn't been fixed then please reply and I'll send a link to this thread to my friend in Korg.

Sorry I can't test it myself because my Pa2x is away having surgery.

Best regards,
Rob

Martinkorg · Post by **Martinkorg** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:01 pm

Rob Sherratt wrote:Hi Martin,

Can you confirm that you are running OS version 2.01 ?

I thought that the bug with deleting unassigned samples had been fixed. I did previously bring it to Korg's attention. If it hasn't been fixed then please reply and I'll send a link to this thread to my friend in Korg.

Sorry I can't test it myself because my Pa2x is away having surgery.

Best regards,
Rob

yes Rob, I'm running 2.1 .I tried every possibility. I even saved new loops over the older ones, to see if that would get rid of them, but they're still there. Something that i hadn't paid attention to before.

My question is what makes a user sample "unassigned sample"? Let's say if i load a loop and call it Drum 1. Then i decide that i don't like it. I go to media, and delete the sample. So now, that user location is empty, but the samples are still there. So i go to sound record mode, and use "delete unassigned samples", ( and those samples are NOT assigned to anything), but nothing happens. Is there an extra step that i'm not taking?

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:28 pm

Hi Martin,

In sample statistics somewhere (I don't have Pa2x to check) it shows you a count of the number of all unassigned samples. If the number is non-zero and remains non-zero after deleting unassigned samples, then there is a bug. If the number is zero and remains zero after deleting unassigned samples then there is no bug but just a paranoid user

Best regards,
Rob