Wish list for the v2.5 KP3 update..?
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amarillo114
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salamanderanagram
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1. Longer sample times; especially for one shots.
use it to trigger samples on yr computer via midi, then loop the audio thru the kp3. same functionality. probably this is a built in limitation of the hardware so don't expect help from korg on it...
2. Alternative filenames;
again, use it as a midi controller. have as many file names as you want and load new ones without stopping audio (gasp!)
3. Sub folders anyone?
computer solves this problem too really.
4. "The possibility to switch the FX depth knob with the FX release slider would be sweet."
this seems probably like probably a hardware limitation as well. you can't always arbitrarily just switch around knobs and sliders, nice as it would be.
5. Start/end point trim; brilliant! But how about a possibility to "move" the sample back/forward without cutting the end/start?
triggering it with ableton could easily solve this problem.
6. A switch between the toggle style use of samples/one shots and trigger and sustain (i.e. the style of playing when holding down a button, and lifting your finger stops the loop/shot).
i'll bet this would be easy to do with midi as well....
7. LOL i will give you this one! what a pain in the ass!!
8. An overall volume out level would be good.
True but how do propose that a piece of software fixes this?
I guess what i'm getting at here guys is that most of this stuff can be done with a KP3 working with ableton, reason, sonar or probably even fruityloops though i haven't tried. i know it's a pain in the ass but it seems extremely unlikely to me that many of these will ever be implemented by korg. they generally fall into 2 categories, hardware limitations, where the machine probably just isn't built to do certain things(for example, i doubt that there is a way to get longer samples and korg just decided not to include it??), and rather esoteric desires that they probably don't feel are necessary or have that much support...
KORG HAS DROPPED THE BALL BIG TIME ON THEIR KAOSS TECHNOLOGY. this is true. but i doubt they will fix it so it is up to us
i would suggest getting seriously inside midi if you want your controllers to be the magical machines you desire . my kaoss pad now doubles as a kaossilator and sometimes triples as a monome. take that korg!
use it to trigger samples on yr computer via midi, then loop the audio thru the kp3. same functionality. probably this is a built in limitation of the hardware so don't expect help from korg on it...
2. Alternative filenames;
again, use it as a midi controller. have as many file names as you want and load new ones without stopping audio (gasp!)
3. Sub folders anyone?
computer solves this problem too really.
4. "The possibility to switch the FX depth knob with the FX release slider would be sweet."
this seems probably like probably a hardware limitation as well. you can't always arbitrarily just switch around knobs and sliders, nice as it would be.
5. Start/end point trim; brilliant! But how about a possibility to "move" the sample back/forward without cutting the end/start?
triggering it with ableton could easily solve this problem.
6. A switch between the toggle style use of samples/one shots and trigger and sustain (i.e. the style of playing when holding down a button, and lifting your finger stops the loop/shot).
i'll bet this would be easy to do with midi as well....
7. LOL i will give you this one! what a pain in the ass!!
8. An overall volume out level would be good.
True but how do propose that a piece of software fixes this?
I guess what i'm getting at here guys is that most of this stuff can be done with a KP3 working with ableton, reason, sonar or probably even fruityloops though i haven't tried. i know it's a pain in the ass but it seems extremely unlikely to me that many of these will ever be implemented by korg. they generally fall into 2 categories, hardware limitations, where the machine probably just isn't built to do certain things(for example, i doubt that there is a way to get longer samples and korg just decided not to include it??), and rather esoteric desires that they probably don't feel are necessary or have that much support...
KORG HAS DROPPED THE BALL BIG TIME ON THEIR KAOSS TECHNOLOGY. this is true. but i doubt they will fix it so it is up to us
i would suggest getting seriously inside midi if you want your controllers to be the magical machines you desire
. my kaoss pad now doubles as a kaossilator and sometimes triples as a monome. take that korg!
Well, I'm getting pretty much getting ignored by the (not so) good people at Korg, so I suggest we send them an online petition.
I remember signing one of those a few years ago. Can't remember what for, but I do remember my friend getting back to me telling me that it was a success.
I googled online petition but got way too many hits.
Anyone know of a good one?
Also, could anyone help me putting together the content of the request. English is not my mother tongue and I have a tendency to get too emotional when complaining about stuff that should be obvious, heeh..
You could PM me a tip of a good site and something clever to write and I'll do the rest.
Then we'll just spread the word to sign it.
I remember signing one of those a few years ago. Can't remember what for, but I do remember my friend getting back to me telling me that it was a success.
I googled online petition but got way too many hits.
Anyone know of a good one?
Also, could anyone help me putting together the content of the request. English is not my mother tongue and I have a tendency to get too emotional when complaining about stuff that should be obvious, heeh..
You could PM me a tip of a good site and something clever to write and I'll do the rest.
Then we'll just spread the word to sign it.
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2stepsteve
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Well this is disheartening. Seeing that V2.0 was released I had hopes we would be getting more of a responce from korg about future firmware updates, obviously there are alot of new features and fixes wanted by all.
If korg won't do it then perhaps some cleaver people could mod the firmware to add new features, it isn't unheard of and has happened with so many other devices. But it really should not come to that, come on Korg wheres the guy from Korg that posts here?
If korg won't do it then perhaps some cleaver people could mod the firmware to add new features, it isn't unheard of and has happened with so many other devices. But it really should not come to that, come on Korg wheres the guy from Korg that posts here?
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2stepsteve
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After only a few days of owning a KP3 my issues are
Most importantly: Why the hell does the KP3 stop outputing sound when loading new samples from the SD card? Why oh why is the KP3 like that?.. Korg? Some one please tell me.
I want more control over the programs. Some of them have a very lacking feel of control, I want to be able to have more control over the programs. Let me decide exacly what the pad controls and how much of an extent it controls.
Why isn't there an option for time stretching (without pitch shifting)? the KP3 is clearly powerful enough to do this as few of it's delay and loop effects make use of time shifting.
These are probably covered on the first post but I also want to add my post as disappointment.
Most importantly: Why the hell does the KP3 stop outputing sound when loading new samples from the SD card? Why oh why is the KP3 like that?.. Korg? Some one please tell me.
I want more control over the programs. Some of them have a very lacking feel of control, I want to be able to have more control over the programs. Let me decide exacly what the pad controls and how much of an extent it controls.
Why isn't there an option for time stretching (without pitch shifting)? the KP3 is clearly powerful enough to do this as few of it's delay and loop effects make use of time shifting.
These are probably covered on the first post but I also want to add my post as disappointment.
Multi-effect option! I want to use all 8 effects at the same time.
I'm going to keep pressing for this. Heres a comment I made about the subject on another post.
I'm think of writing a post and sending an e-mail to Korg of how to do it.
I'm going to keep pressing for this. Heres a comment I made about the subject on another post.
I'm think of writing a post and sending an e-mail to Korg of how to do it.
Under the limitations of the KP3, a programmer could adjust the OS to allocate memory from the SD card to compensate for the memory needed to operate more than one effect on the KP3 (obviously up to 8 different effects) at the same time. However it would require the end user to purchase a 2 gig SD card and thus the new up date would have an option for one to set said "new possible multi-effect option" on which in turn would automatically allocate 1 gig of memory on the card as memory for multi-effect use. the end user would only be left with 1gig left for samples.
I don't see why korg just does not do that. any programmer here on the boards if they had access to the OS source code could make this minor adjustment.
I do see that it would be a pretty hefty PDF manual to teach people how to work with a new feature like this and create the accompanying editor update (which would be the only way to save multi-effect settings - on your computer).
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IAmBrigsUsername
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I would agree mostly with all of these, but I think # 4, 16, 22, 29, 37 & 42 would improve it greatly.
#37 would be awsome if you could change around the drum effects... Edit your own midi drums and load them onto the pad. Get rid of the delay on the drums, cause that doesn't really have any use. Even if they just made a couple more drum settings (like drN 1 & 2 not 3-6) it would be a great improvement.
#42 is also a great idea.. I don't know if it would be possible on the KP3, but if you could also rearange them, it could just give you more control and more versitility
this is probably on the list somewhere- If you have 2 samples going that were recorded at different tempos, they get off after maybe a minute and or two... it gets pretty annoying having to constantly shift one (or more) of your samples. And it ultimately means you end up having to shift one sample over an entire beat to compensate.
#37 would be awsome if you could change around the drum effects... Edit your own midi drums and load them onto the pad. Get rid of the delay on the drums, cause that doesn't really have any use. Even if they just made a couple more drum settings (like drN 1 & 2 not 3-6) it would be a great improvement.
#42 is also a great idea.. I don't know if it would be possible on the KP3, but if you could also rearange them, it could just give you more control and more versitility
this is probably on the list somewhere- If you have 2 samples going that were recorded at different tempos, they get off after maybe a minute and or two... it gets pretty annoying having to constantly shift one (or more) of your samples. And it ultimately means you end up having to shift one sample over an entire beat to compensate.
Wait... What?
Send all your requests to Korg directly.
support@korguksupport.co.uk
gareth@korg.co.uk
product_support@korgusa.com
Or http://www.korg.co.uk/contact_us.asp
I'm not buying any more products from them unless they clean up their customer department..
support@korguksupport.co.uk
gareth@korg.co.uk
product_support@korgusa.com
Or http://www.korg.co.uk/contact_us.asp
I'm not buying any more products from them unless they clean up their customer department..
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IAmBrigsUsername
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True that!illmatic wrote:more synth patches please!
*Edit* whoops, I thought you said, "No more synth patches please!"
so to avoid any further confusion my point on the subject is...
No more synth patches please!
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Wait... What?
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salamanderanagram
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most of these are unrealistic
expecting a product to do things it simply doesnt...
multifx for example would make a great ...new product!
you cant expect them to just.. add it in?
the idea with an SD card to run the extra 7fx that guy was suggesting.. is just..
stupid?
if anything it would need more processing power or dsp chips or something. anyway, hardcore rebuilding of the unit.
whether you want to hear it or not,
to do what you want, you have to buy another kp3/kp2 and/or kpmini and hook them all up in series. (if i see a cheap kp2 i might get it for this purpose)
or (more economical option)
complement it with some software fx
kaosspad is great for what it does
its a multifx unit, with a collection of contemporary presets
that has predefined parameters which can be altered by an xy pad
thats pretty much it
i havnt delved too deep into the sampling, but i didnt buy it for that.
if i wanted in depth sampling, i would have bought an in depth sampler
or used a software plugin.
i love the kaosspad built into the zero8
i'd love a standalone product (kp4 maybe?) which had similar functionality,
it has a dotmatrix touchscreen, 3 fx units in one
with xy fx, button fx, and detailed fx with parameters controlled by knobs. with great visual feedback.
i think this is more feasible as:
-its a suggestion for a new product, rather than trying to squeeze impossible features into a mchine not designed to cope
-korg have already built one, and it rocks
expecting a product to do things it simply doesnt...
multifx for example would make a great ...new product!
you cant expect them to just.. add it in?
the idea with an SD card to run the extra 7fx that guy was suggesting.. is just..
stupid?
if anything it would need more processing power or dsp chips or something. anyway, hardcore rebuilding of the unit.
whether you want to hear it or not,
to do what you want, you have to buy another kp3/kp2 and/or kpmini and hook them all up in series. (if i see a cheap kp2 i might get it for this purpose)
or (more economical option)
complement it with some software fx
kaosspad is great for what it does
its a multifx unit, with a collection of contemporary presets
that has predefined parameters which can be altered by an xy pad
thats pretty much it
i havnt delved too deep into the sampling, but i didnt buy it for that.
if i wanted in depth sampling, i would have bought an in depth sampler
or used a software plugin.
i love the kaosspad built into the zero8
i'd love a standalone product (kp4 maybe?) which had similar functionality,
it has a dotmatrix touchscreen, 3 fx units in one
with xy fx, button fx, and detailed fx with parameters controlled by knobs. with great visual feedback.
i think this is more feasible as:
-its a suggestion for a new product, rather than trying to squeeze impossible features into a mchine not designed to cope
-korg have already built one, and it rocks
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siniquichi
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