is there nobody on this forum who can answer my question ?

eamon · Post by **eamon** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:15 pm

Triton TR Go to:
1.) Combi A08 South of Africa (I think is the name of the combi) Nice appregiator. Note the Right hand sounds similar to Marimba's

2.) Now go to Global mode - Switch off Combi & Programme Auto Start Appregiator

3.) Now go back to Combi A08 & it's a totally different Appregiator & Right Hand.

So is this a bug, or am I misunderstanding the purpose of the Auto Start Appregiator option on/off ?

I prefer it permanently switched off - as I use it in Church & don't want it starting accidently. Seems fine with other Appregiators.
N.B.... When you re-load the original Combi all is fine - but you must keep the Auto Start Appregiator Combi / Programme on !

Stephen · Post by **Stephen** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:43 pm

I didn't use the Global mode, but it stayed the same, I used F4 and unticked both Arps, everything stayed the same, I didn't write it, but I could have, maybe that'll work for you also.
Good luck.

jg:: · Post by **jg::** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:51 am

Eamon, that's the way it works, I believe. If you turn off "Auto Start" then I think it ignores the arpeggio settings that are stored, since it's assumed that you aren't interested in them.

If it's just that you don't want the arpeggio to be "on" when you select the prog/combi, then you don't need to go to Global mode to change that. Just select the combi, turn the arp off, and re-save the combi.

jg::

eamon · Post by **eamon** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:35 pm

Stephen wrote:I didn't use the Global mode, but it stayed the same, I used F4 and unticked both Arps, everything stayed the same, I didn't write it, but I could have, maybe that'll work for you also.
Good luck.

Hi Stephen,
Thanks very much for taking the tim for the reply. The problem occurs when save is activated Global Mode.
Now to do it your way, I think this means that I need to make a list of each Combi where the APR starts automaticly & disable it using your method. I thought I was switching off the Master Combi/Prog' Auto Start ?

eamon · Post by **eamon** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:41 pm

jg:: wrote:Eamon, that's the way it works, I believe. If you turn off "Auto Start" then I think it ignores the arpeggio settings that are stored, since it's assumed that you aren't interested in them.

If it's just that you don't want the arpeggio to be "on" when you select the prog/combi, then you don't need to go to Global mode to change that. Just select the combi, turn the arp off, and re-save the combi.

jg::

Hi JG,
Thanks for reply. It's great to get help with this problem, as I was saying in the reply to Stephen, this means editing each Combi/Prog' one by one. I thought my way would "do exactly what it says on the tin !" Is it possible to edit via software ?

Stephen · Post by **Stephen** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:24 pm

eamon wrote:
Stephen wrote:I didn't use the Global mode, but it stayed the same, I used F4 and unticked both Arps, everything stayed the same, I didn't write it, but I could have, maybe that'll work for you also.
Good luck.

Hi Stephen,
Now to do it your way, I think this means that I need to make a list of each Combi where the APR starts automaticly & disable it using your method. I thought I was switching off the Master Combi/Prog' Auto Start ?

Yeah, it's more work, but then you don't really change anything but the Arps.
Another way would be to dial up the Combi, switch off the arp, and just WRITE COMBINATION, with it off, that does the same thing, except then, you can just hit the ARP ON/OFF switch to reactivate the Arp.
That's how I do it, since I haven't fully explored my TR Combis, been too busy setting it up for the band, but I like explore the Combi section when I have free time, and see what the Arps do in the various Combis.

eamon · Post by **eamon** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 11:50 pm

Stephen wrote:
eamon wrote:
Stephen wrote:I didn't use the Global mode, but it stayed the same, I used F4 and unticked both Arps, everything stayed the same, I didn't write it, but I could have, maybe that'll work for you also.
Good luck.

Hi Stephen,
Now to do it your way, I think this means that I need to make a list of each Combi where the APR starts automaticly & disable it using your method. I thought I was switching off the Master Combi/Prog' Auto Start ?
Yeah, it's more work, but then you don't really change anything but the Arps.
Another way would be to dial up the Combi, switch off the arp, and just WRITE COMBINATION, with it off, that does the same thing, except then, you can just hit the ARP ON/OFF switch to reactivate the Arp.
That's how I do it, since I haven't fully explored my TR Combis, been too busy setting it up for the band, but I like explore the Combi section when I have free time, and see what the Arps do in the various Combis.

Hi Guys,
Stephen's method works perfectly, as I use the Combi's sometimes. I just prefer to manually start them. It's a little long winded to switch each one off, & write indivudally, in all Prog' & Combi Modes.

I just can't get my head around not been able to switch off "auto start" in Global mode - to currupt the APR does not seem right. I gave an example of the African "A08" APR as it's the one causing me the trouble. Any other views out there ? Anyone care to try this out, see my original post and tell me your findings and opinions ?

Stephen · Post by **Stephen** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:46 pm

It's a little long winded to switch each one off, & write indivudally, in all Prog' & Combi Modes.

Yeah, agreed, but I've done so many edits, splits, patch creating, EQing, effects assigning...well, you get the picture, that it's become a no brainer, much smoother and faster than when I first started.
Regards,

candlewick · Post by **candlewick** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:02 am

I ran into a similar issue when trying to disable my LE arps for use during worship. After encountering a similar issue where voicing and/or arpeggiators seemed to be changing randomly..................I dug into the manual only to find out that the Global switches (the one you speak of) only changes the "lock: on the idividual arps for each program which would be helpful in previewing other combi's with the currently selected arps. I tested this out by toggling the global start off and going to a combi, then switching to a new combi, the arps follow with the patch change. I think the description in global is misleading..............but thankfully it wasn't a corruption of memory issue. Disable them individually as you use them, or even create a separate category for your worship voices. makes life a lot easier.