Your Least Favorite Aspect of Extreme?

elevated · Post by **elevated** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:59 pm

First the disclaimer-- I love this board, and use the heck out of almost every feature! And the real best feature is the sound, as we all know.

So here's my biggest annoyance-- Why can't the sequencer adjust to a finer tempo than whole digits? Don't even basic sequencers adjust to 1/10th's ?

mjhann · Post by **mjhann** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:11 pm

thats my problem too, i only really work with samples and the ones ive used so far have never had a BPM of a whole number

elevated · Post by **elevated** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:29 pm

Actually, I'm changing my vote!

Your post just reminded me that I'm really annoyed by how the Tritons handle stereo samples. Having a separate multisample for the left and right channel is pretty awkward. Other samplers I've used make stereo sampling more transparent to the user.

wilbur · Post by **wilbur** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:15 pm

My vote goes to the filters on the extreme (and my pitchbend that's still broken lol). Besides that, it's heaven.

Stephen · Post by **Stephen** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:19 pm

My biggest annoyance with the Extreme, is that I don't have one!

elevated · Post by **elevated** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:23 pm

Hi Wilbur,

I hear people mention the filters as a weak point, but I've never really had a problem with them. What synth are you comparing to? And what's the specific complain, low-pass isn't steep enough?

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 6:31 pm

Handling of Stereo Multisample is the worst thing on any Korg machine ever,
it sux, its the worst outthere that exist and also very stupid, they should've
made it having a KMP for ach KSF, how stupid, 2 KMPs for one Sound.

shrike · Post by **shrike** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:07 am

Inability to handle stereo samples isn't much of a problem when handling no-drum sounds in program mode; I got used to it so having one kmp with L-samples and one with R-samples works for me.
But where that doesn't work is assigning drum samples in drum kits. One can't assign stereo drum sample in a drum kit or two samples in the same velocity range (one can assign two samples in velocity switch, but that doesn't solve this); assigning one L-sample and one R-sample of the same drum element requires two keys, one for triggering each sample. Which consequently causes midi data doubling, very inconvenient.

Other than that, I would like to see endless rotary knobs instead those fixed range ones. Fixed ones send their value depending on their current position, which can interrupt pre-programmed values, while endless rotary ones start from pre-programmed value, no matter which one. The tempo knob is the best example - if one has one song at exactly 120 BMP, selects another song that runs on 60 BMP and wants to speed it up to 80 during the performance, one has actually do the opposite action - rotating the knob to slow down (it was previously 120 BMP), which would cause beat to jump from 120 to 80. Endless rotary knob wouldn't be dependent on fixed position, it would just speed up from 60 to 80 with proper action. This problem can be avoided with rotary wheel and I usually use that one to change tempo, instead of dedicated tempo knob.

Also, having independent pitch EGs for each oscillator would be nice. Filter and AMP settings have independent EG, I don't understand why Korg decided Pitch is inferior to those two and should have one EG for both oscillator. That could have been easily handled with OS upgrade, but since TEX is obsolete, there isn't much point in whining now.

Even with small imperfections, Extreme is still very potent and very well rounded workstation, IMO.

Kontrol49 · Post by **Kontrol49** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:04 am

My biggest annoyance is that they Never Made a Rack version!

Goom · Post by **Goom** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:35 pm

One is the weight. Taking it in the case anywhere always surprises me. I don't recall my other synths being that heavy.

Also, the side panels being as fragile as they are is a terrible oversight on Korg's part.

I wish there was an easier way to switch betwen menus. For instance going between oscillators one and two's filter and amp settings. It takes a lot of menu changes to get everything set right. I wish all of the menus were instantly selectable with the numeric keypad (without hitting the menu button first) or via soft buttons that were always displayed at the top of the LCD. Hardware buttons would be preferrable for this (faster).

I wonder if the most used parameters could have been squeezed on one screen. Like having ALL of the filter modulations shown on a single screen, and maybe cycling through EG-X and LFO-X pages with a hardware toggle switch. I wouldn't mind losing the EG and LFO waveform graphics to save screen space to accomplish this.

Also - I wish certain default settings could be user-defined. Such as the ribbon and S1 and S2 routings. I don't like having to reset the ribbon from a pitch mod of 2 everytime I create a new sound. Something else I would have liked better is if the EGs' were initially set to an organ type of response, instead of all levels at zero. The other default setting that gets my goat is when setting the osc from single to double mode, oscillator 2 is always panned hard right. Minor stuff, but still a bother...

I also feel that some parameters should be displayed in different menus. For instance, the main filter menu could have had EG intensity and some other things.

Kontrol49 · Post by **Kontrol49** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 8:03 pm

Goom wrote:
Also - I wish certain default settings could be user-defined. Such as the ribbon and S1 and S2 routings. I don't like having to reset the ribbon from a pitch mod of 2 everytime I create a new sound. Something else I would have liked better is if the EGs' were initially set to an organ type of response, instead of all levels at zero. The other default setting that gets my goat is when setting the osc from single to double mode, oscillator 2 is always panned hard right. Minor stuff, but still a bother...

Why haven't you made your own Initialised Patch with your preferential settings and saved it to a spare Program Location??then just dial up the required Initiliased Program(s) and you would have all these parameters setup to your liking before making a new program.

The Extreme has more than enough Banks/Programs to spare a few blank locations setup by yourself for your own patch making requirements
I always have an initialised patch location in all of my synths,set to my requirements,saves a lot of messing around each time you want to create from scratch.

KrzysiekK · Post by **KrzysiekK** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:52 pm

severe MIDI velocity holes (TEX88)

nothing more

Goom · Post by **Goom** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:54 pm

"Why haven't you made your own Initialised Patch with your preferential settings and saved it to a spare Program Location?"

That's probably a workable solution for the default parameter problem, thanks.

kabuchi · Post by **kabuchi** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:58 am

Mine is a "weak body" the classic is a TANK! compared to the extreme...