A touch of irony...Parameter Guide manual

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A touch of irony...Parameter Guide manual

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I find it slightly ironic, that the Oasys Parameter guide, vast and rich in details and so well written by Dan Phillips.

One of the best manuls written for a musical instrument, stitched together with thought and clear concise consideration is so....um......ignored by so many!

It helps with deeper insight into a machine-world that you wouldn't normally think of using in the same way, as when you plough through by trial&error tactics.

I think its a little ironic! Just my daily thought.

Thanks Dan, for your efforts in this regard! :)
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+100 :-)

The Parameter Guide has some very useful commentary and tips, mixed in with the more straight reference type information. It's taken a while to get into the habit, but now I far more regularly pull up the Oasys online help when I am curious about something that I either don't understand and wonder whether my understanding is really correct, and that leads me to reading about a topic in more detail in the PDF PG (a little easier when reading lengthier texts).

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Hedegaard,

Yes, it is ironic. I believe it is but one facet of the "instant gratification" behavior that has gripped many people today.

Specifically, why pick up a phone book size manual when you can just post a question in a forum and have the answer spoon fed to you? Talk about irony! They have to read the answer, don't they?

My guess is that many of the people who adopt that approach either have poor reading / learning skills, or feel that their time is too precious to spend reading the manual or using the search function.

Some of us who are proactive thinkers actually take pleasure & pride in learning on our own with the available documents. What the others have not figured out yet is that learning by your own effort is rewarding and improves confidence in your knowledge.

Dan does deserve a hearty thank you for all the work that went into creating it.

Thanks from me too Dan!

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Thank you - it makes me happy to hear that people appreciate the docs! Note that the manuals are a joint effort; I'm just one of a team. Originally, Korg Inc. was responsible for most of the parts relating to the Sequencer, Combination, Sampling, and Global modes, and Stephen Kay wrote the parts related to KARMA. I've done the sections on the HD-1 and all EXi, Wave Sequences, Vector, some of the new effects, and most of the other parts related to Program mode. I've also done some amount of editing to the rest of the manuals as time has permitted.

Thanks again for your positive feedback!
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danatkorg wrote:Thank you - it makes me happy to hear that people appreciate the docs! Note that the manuals are a joint effort; I'm just one of a team. Originally, Korg Inc. was responsible for most of the parts relating to the Sequencer, Combination, Sampling, and Global modes, and Stephen Kay wrote the parts related to KARMA. I've done the sections on the HD-1 and all EXi, Wave Sequences, Vector, some of the new effects, and most of the other parts related to Program mode. I've also done some amount of editing to the rest of the manuals as time has permitted.

Thanks again for your positive feedback!
The new ones to comes ?????????? :D :D :D :D :D :D

ok , i was joking, congratulation for this great documentation ;)
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sebbytriton wrote:
danatkorg wrote: some of the new effects,!
The new ones to comes ?????????? :D :D :D :D :D :D

ok , i was joking, congratulation for this great documentation ;)
To clarify: the effects which are in the OASYS, but not in previous Korg workstations.

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Post by Ultimate Dj »

danatkorg wrote:
To clarify: the effects which are in the OASYS, but not in previous Korg workstations.

:-)

got all our hopes up! :roll: lol :D jk
So there will be no new effects with the 1.3.2 update? :D :D :lol:


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I also must Say: A Big Thank to Korg, Thank you Mr. Dan, Thank you Mr. Stephen Kay,Thank you Mr. Jerry and Thank you to all Korg Team for Making this WONDERFUL MACHINE. :idea:
You Guys at Korg Rock !!!

( Don't forget to upgrade the Seq to 32 Channels in the Next Update please.) :wink:
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kenackr wrote:Hedegaard,

Yes, it is ironic. I believe it is but one facet of the "instant gratification" behavior that has gripped many people today.

Specifically, why pick up a phone book size manual when you can just post a question in a forum and have the answer spoon fed to you? Talk about irony! They have to read the answer, don't they?

My guess is that many of the people who adopt that approach either have poor reading / learning skills, or feel that their time is too precious to spend reading the manual or using the search function.


Ken
Whats even more ironic is that the lazy people post Questions in forums and wait for a reply,in the time they waited they could have simply read the Answer in the Manual or they get no reply and become irritated with everyone else for not replying.

I wouldn't say that was down to Poor reading or learning,simply idle nature,the same generation who's parents did everything for them for fear of upsetting their children,wrapping them in cotton wool from society so they have spoonfed a nation of children who no longer has any aspirations or desire to do or learn anything for themselves,certainly in the UK we have a society rife of those individuals.


+1 to Dan for the Oasys Manual :wink:
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kenackr wrote:Specifically, why pick up a phone book size manual when you can just post a question in a forum...
You're talking about the Param Guide there, when many questions I see regularly could be answered from the slender Operation Guide. What makes me curious is how some folks with so little experience in MIDI and audio took the leap and bought an $8000 instrument. That's an interesting phenomenon, and whilst the 40+ people that post here might not really best represent the skill level of the actual 5000++ users, I bet there is some correlation.

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Kontrol49 wrote:
kenackr wrote:Hedegaard,

Yes, it is ironic. I believe it is but one facet of the "instant gratification" behavior that has gripped many people today.

Specifically, why pick up a phone book size manual when you can just post a question in a forum and have the answer spoon fed to you? Talk about irony! They have to read the answer, don't they?

My guess is that many of the people who adopt that approach either have poor reading / learning skills, or feel that their time is too precious to spend reading the manual or using the search function.


Ken
Whats even more ironic is that the lazy people post Questions in forums and wait for a reply,in the time they waited they could have simply read the Answer in the Manual or they get no reply and become irritated with everyone else for not replying.

I wouldn't say that was down to Poor reading or learning,simply idle nature,the same generation who's parents did everything for them for fear of upsetting their children,wrapping them in cotton wool from society so they have spoonfed a nation of children who no longer has any aspirations or desire to do or learn anything for themselves,certainly in the UK we have a society rife of those individuals.


+1 to Dan for the Oasys Manual :wink:
Writing forum posts with all kind of questions could also be just for the funn of it. But anyway, people must read the synth doc´s, I hardly never see posts on that subject....I wounder why.

I find the Oasys doc´s very usefull and well written, but I would like to see more exampels of programing, like the TI doc´s....they have loads of god tips and trix. Maby a programing tips and trix thread could be usefull. :wink:
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Daz,

You're absolutely correct on the OP guide. I have been re-reading sections of it lately and finding new information every day. I had apparently skimmed over some parts or wasn't focused enough when I read it the first time to absorb everything that's in there.

The 40+ forum contributors you mentioned are probably a decent representation of the owner pool. From what I remember of my statistics & probabilities classes some time ago, a sample size approaching 1% of the population is more than likely to be a good approximation.

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Kontrol49 wrote:
Whats even more ironic is that the lazy people post Questions in forums and wait for a reply,in the time they waited they could have simply read the Answer in the Manual or they get no reply and become irritated with everyone else for not replying.

I wouldn't say that was down to Poor reading or learning,simply idle nature,the same generation who's parents did everything for them for fear of upsetting their children,wrapping them in cotton wool from society so they have spoonfed a nation of children who no longer has any aspirations or desire to do or learn anything for themselves,certainly in the UK we have a society rife of those individuals.


+1 to Dan for the Oasys Manual :wink:

Right on mate! I don't think you could've summed up this generation any better! and its exactly the same in the USA! I think US is the one who started the apathy.
its sad isn't it? :( that so many young lives are just....wasted..well not wasted just could be so much more!
but thats off topic :roll:


anyways yeah great work Dan! :D


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Post by Hedegaard »

What seems like a "wasted" life for the youth of today, seen from the eyes of older people, is just young people not realising how fast time flies, thinking they have an eternity at their disposal.

Only with the onset of age, does one realise how little time one has left and therefore makes more of his/her days, for fear of losing productivity to it.
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Who are these youth you speak of ? Ultimate DJ is one of the few youths on this forum I believe :D
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