Lets support Wlodzimier-Extreme Sample Conventer Develloper!

[BasariStudios]

Recently i started to collaborate with Wlodzimier from Polan, the inventor and founder
of Extreme Sample Converter:



We gonna do be doing certain things together in the future but few nights ago me and
Wlod spent the whole night talking about Korg, especially M3 and the PA Series.
What we try to come up with is some kind of THING which would be able to translate
and convert PCG from M3 to TRITON/PA and vice versa. We know the difference but
as we talked not necesarilly everything has to be converted, it would be very helpfull
if certain parameters were to be converted automatically by a software then by rewriting.
Parameters like FX, FILTER, PITCH, AMP can be converted, whatever can not can be
ignored by the software and leave it up to us to rewrite but it would still help a lot.
Also there is no software yet that does anything on M3's AUDIO like Looping, creating
an M3 KMP, KSF and else...since when exported from Awave M3 resets the loop.
Next, we also talked a lot about a PA MENAGER, something we always talk and fight
about in here. I know Mick started something but i dont know whats going on with that.
Wlod currently ha ssomething similar to it, that can do certain things but he uses it for
his own needs and he would be willing to write a whole program for this without Korg's
support on it...he just needs ur support, he might jon the forum soon. Our support would
be responding to him and his questions once he starts the program, our interest in it and
also our coleagues from Polan might help him even more, the ones that live close to him
but i would leave that up to them to talk to Wlod. The reason i wrote this in here is just to
share it with you and show some support to the guy, he is a very smart and capable guy.
Recently i started using Extreme Sample Converter and Sample Lord and they are great
softwares, way better then what i have used before for creating sounds.
He is also very helpfull.

Thanks for your attention.

[Rob Sherratt]

If Wlodzimier would like any help from me, just send me an email ...

Best regards,
Rob

[BasariStudios]

Yup, i would try to connect few people to him and Mick too.

[macboy]

I would suggest that you change the topic title. If you talk about PA Manager on PC, then add this to the title, because this could be the biggest news for most users on the forum, except will not see it because you don't mention it

For the rest: GREAT WORK NEDIM !

I sure will be following all developments and would contribute where necessary and if time.

[Rob Sherratt]

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[macboy]

No Rob, he is definitely talking about why I said:

Next, we also talked a lot about a PA MENAGER, something we always talk and fight about in here. I know Mick started something but i dont know whats going on with that

You see

[wirakb]

i think this s will be good. for all korg user.

thaks nedim...

[mrniceneasy]

Recently i started to collaborate with Wlodzimier from Polan, the inventor and founder
of Extreme Sample Converter:

Next, we also talked a lot about a PA MENAGER, something we always talk and fight
about in here. I know Mick started something but i dont know whats going on with that.
Wlod currently ha ssomething similar to it, that can do certain things but he uses it for
his own needs and he would be willing to write a whole program for this without Korg's
support on it...he just needs ur support, he might jon the forum soon. Our support would
be responding to him and his questions once he starts the program, our interest in it

As little as I know yet about the Korg. I would certainly be very interested in PA Manager Software for merging Sets which we have already stated in the Korg Survey. That would be a Major step forward in the survival of Korg PA products. I for one would be willing to pay a reasonable price to purchase such software from whatever source as long as it was 'Dummy' compatible with ease of use.....

[Rob Sherratt]

I would happily pay for software that can manage libraries of styles and user sounds in such a way that the links between styles and user sounds are automatically corrected after merging .SET files.

To do this, the software has to decode both .PCG and .STY file types.

However, Korg have not so far provided details of the latest Pa800/Pa2x version of .PCG and .STY file types, and I wonder how Wlodzimier will decode those?

Regards,
Rob

PS Macboy - my apology for my incorrect message earlier, which I deleted. I have my reading glasses on now

[iaoranaemaeva]

To do this, the software has to decode both .PCG and .STY file types.

Hi All,

There is another fundamental question IMHO:

Is it theoretically possible to compute Multisample referencing by User Sounds from outside the Pa without knowing what is already in its memory when a new MSP are installed?

If the answer is No - which I fear - the only way is to simulate the whole memory loading history, starting from a blank Set, isn't it? Unfortunately, it is impossible to read the actual memory content of the Pa through MIDI or USB .

Alain

[iaoranaemaeva]

However, Korg have not so far provided details of the latest Pa800/Pa2x version of .PCG and .STY file types, and I wonder how Wlodzimier will decode those?

As (almost) everyone does Rob: by trials and errors

Alain

[Sharp]

I'm a registered user of his software and it's excellent. I use Extreme Sample Converter for all my sound design these days. The only thing I don't like about the program is that it does not support KORG sample formats so I have to save my work in wave format.

If he is adding a KORG sample format, then it needs to support the new stereo multisamples system. If he only implements the old mono system that the likes of Awave Studio supports, then the conversion process is completely pointless. It's a waste of OSC using the old method as the data will not appear in the correct place in PROG mode, and it just outright looks amature to make a sound using the old method now.

With regards to converting between PCG formats, that's a huge project, probably something he shouldn't even attempt as it's not going to produce any end results that will be usable without manual editing. I know lots about this because I helped Xavier on the Alchemist project. I sample huge amounts of raw data from a Trinity ROM Chip for that project just because the systems where so different.

The STY Manager would be worthwhile, but there won't be any help from KORG, so I hope he's a good hacker KORG will likely break this with any OS update too.

Personally I'd like to see him attempt the conversion to KORG Sample formats first, and include the stereo multisample system.

Regards.
Sharp.

[BasariStudios]

Yes James, i addressed to him as the most important thing, adding Korg
KMP and KSF to the program, in Stereo, i am a registered user now, both,
ESC and SL, these programs are great...he is a smart guy, i think he can
do a lot of stuff for us.

[rikkisbears]

Hi Nedim,
I bought it a couple of years ago for my soundfonts. It was a great program.

Haven't used it for quite a while though.

[iaoranaemaeva]

I would certainly be very interested in PA Manager Software for merging Sets which we have already stated in the Korg Survey. That would be a Major step forward in the survival of Korg PA products.

Would you still be interested in such a Pa Librarian if it lacked only the User Multisample Merging feature (which could be added later if proved feasible)?

Alain