Basic question re saving Styles...

[kc47]

Just bought Pa2xPro...I want to write and save style registrations for all my songs...if I save in Performance it only saves sounds and defaults to the factory Style. If I try to save in Styles it won't let me go to Empty file and so overwrites the factory settings...how and where can I store my edited styles for quick recall? Thanks.

[Sam CA]

Just bought Pa2xPro...I want to write and save style registrations for all my songs...if I save in Performance it only saves sounds and defaults to the factory Style. If I try to save in Styles it won't let me go to Empty file and so overwrites the factory settings...how and where can I store my edited styles for quick recall? Thanks.

If you want to save a new style or an existing style as a new user style, you would have to go to Record style mode.

[kc47]

Maany thanks Sam...will get onto it!

[mrniceneasy]

Hi kc47. Why not save all your settings in the Songbook. All that actually does is save your registrations and so is in fact a massive registration Bank for up to 9,999 Song entry's.

Songbook editing
After setting up your style the way you want it:

Important: Enable song list edit in the screen menu first or your changes won’t take effect

1 - Press "Songbook" button
2 - Press the "Book Edit 1" tab
3 - Select the "Write Current Resource" box ( you have to do this to create a new song entry!
4 - Change the settings here you want for example song name, artist, key etc.
5 - Write STS settings using the "Write STS " option and if you want all 4 STS saved then click the
"All Current Style STS" option - note you can save each STS individually 1/2/3/4 and 'Write'
6 - Press "book edit 2" tab
7 - Setup the options here for "Synchro start" Intro and Variation etc
8 - Press "New song" button
9 - Press "Write" button
10 - Press "T" button to give song a name
11 - Select "New song"
12 - Press "OK"

You now have a new song in your songbook

How do I create a Custom List?

1 - Press "Songbook"
2 - Press the Page menu in the top right hand corner of the screen
3 - Make sure the "Enable list edit" option is ticked on
4 - Press the "List Edit" Tab
5 - Press the "New List" Button
6 - Press the " Book " Tab
7 - Select a song and press "Add to list"
8 - repeat 7 above for all the songs you want to add to the list
9 - Press the "List Edit" Tab
10 - Press "Write" to save the list and rename it if you want
11 - Press OK

You now have a custom list. You can have as many custom lists as you want. (or disk space allows)
If you want to just change Name Artist Key etc

1 - Press the "Book Edit 1" tab
2 - Change the settings here you want for example song name, artist, key etc.
3 - Press "Write" button
4 - Press "OK"

If you want to change sounds STS settings etc

Change the settings within your style

1 - Press "Songbook"
2 - Press the "Book Edit 1" tab
3 - Select the "Write Current Resource" box
4 - Press "Write" button
5 - Select "Rename/Over-Write"
6 - Press OK

If you only want to save a songbook into a new set then do the following

1 - Press "Media"
2 - Press the Save tab
3 - Select "ALL" and the press "Open"
4 - Scroll down until you see "Songbook" Folder and select it
5 - Press "Save to"
6 - Select your USB stick
7 - Press "New Set"
8 - give the set a name and then Press OK


Additional: Changing pads in Songbook

Enable the songbook edits on the screen drop down Menu.

A MUST DO HERE: The pads are protected/locked in the operating system under Global settings and you need to ''unprotect'' the 'pads'...Global settings -> General Controls -> tab to 'locks' page and unlock 'pad control' then 'Write Global on the screen menu-> Global setup...........

When I've changed the pad on tab book edit1 I immediately go to the 'Write Menu' on the main screen page and Write current style performance which changes the pad permanently on the new Songbook song. You can leave the pads unlocked permanently and save that setting in Global....

Change a single or multiple STS in a Songbook Registration

This is how It's done. You select the song in songbook then EXIT and then change your STS on the screen and save it ->hold shift and the STS Button and Write. Go back to the songbook and Highlight/Select the same song, put a tick in the STS box to STS 1/2/3/4 [repeat the procedure for each STS you wish to change] of choice on the tab book edit1 screen and then press WRITE.

[kc47]

Hi Keith

Many thanks for comprehensive help BUT I followed your instructions to the letter (three times) including the Song List Edit Enabled.

When recalling the song it has certainly saved name, tempo, and style but the sounds default to the original style sounds. I want to be able to save a full keyboard/grand piano set up. I've also checked the manual and the CD-ROM to no avail and am beginning to think there might be a problem with this particular machine!!!

Any thoughts greatly appreciated. I guess I've been spoilt with the ease of my trusty Technics KN6500 and its dedicated Panel registrations buttons!!!

Cheers.

Colin

[mrniceneasy]

Hi Colin. It sounds like you have parameters locked down which would stop you saving settings permanently.

1] Press the 'Global' button on the keyboard -> General Controls -> Bottom of the page tab to 'lock' page [To unlock the parameters that you wish to save]

1] Go to the side 'Tuning' Tab
Unlock -> Master Transpose & Perf. M Transpose & Style Perf Transpose

2] Go to the side 'Control' Tab
Unlock Assignable switches & slider mode & Pad & Lower

3]Go to FX & Voice Tab
Unlock ->Voice Pro. Preset & Upper1 FX'S

4] Go to Side Tab 'Style'
Unlock -> Style Preferences & Style Elements, & Style Tracks play/mute & Style Tracks Volume...

Go to Screen Menu -> Write Global -> Global Settings.

There are my setting on pa2x and I can do anything within the Songbook and save it permanently. Hope this helps...

[zolux]

An extremelly well explained subject step by step, as it should always be, specially for begginers too.

I must say, Keith, it is a real previlege to have you on the forum.

Thank you very much.

You make the forum, together with a few others, a place worth visiting
over and over again.

Un saludo from Malaga in sunny Spain.

Adios amigo.

zolux - Juan

[mrniceneasy]

Thank you Juan. I really appreciate your comments. It certainly makes it worth the time spent on learning the OS and assimilating Knowlege from other Users and passing it on in an understandable format.

regards and thanks again
Keith

[rikkisbears]

Hi,
don't know if I've understood correctly.
For my edited styles,
I choose style I want to edit.
press Record button
choose existing style.
Do my edits.
Write to an empty User or Favourites slot.
If I want to changes STS's
I pick my sounds.
Drop Down Menu
Choose Write to STS
Choose 1, variation 1 Write,
then sts 2 variation 2 Write etc
If I want to change Tempo etc
I use Write to Current Style performance.


Also the STS button functions has different functions.
If you set it to flashing, the sounds will change when you press the various variation buttons.

[quote="kc47"]

[mrniceneasy]

Hi Rikki. I think the Question more related to 'Registrations' than saving actual new Styles 'Quote' I want to write and save style registrations for all my songs 'end Quote'

Your answer of course is relevant with respect to 'quote' how and where can I store my edited styles for quick recall? 'end Quote'

So I think both answers are good for the actual post. Thanks for adding it to the Thread and it explains the procedure in an easy to understand format....

regards
keith

[kc47]

Keith...once again thanks for response. I went through the Global Menus but all those boxes were unlocked anyway. So tried to save Style in SongBook but without success! Will call the shop today to see if they can help. I have to say that Korg is not an easy keyboard and I'm not a dim chap...never mind...keeps the brain cells going a bit longer I suppose!

Colin

[macboy]

Calling the shop will not help you. Check more thoroughly on this forum or in manual how global works and lock protect and of course saving it !

You must be doing something wrong or overlooking some minor detail. The procedure is done as written here so if it doesn't work it will most likely me your own fault.

Do not think there is something wrong with the machine.

Please be patient

[kc47]

Hi Macboy. Thanks for your comment. I have checked all the Global settings both using the manual and the Instructional Video. If it is a "small" thing that I've missed then I take that on board. BUT how many hours must I spend before learning what I consider to be an essential part of one's playing needs? I've had this keyboard for just over 2 weeks and spent most days, at the expense of other tasks, getting to grips with it! I appreciate your thoughts but I wasn't expecting such a steep learning curve from what is supposed to be an "intuitive" keyboard!

[mrniceneasy]

Keith...once again thanks for response. I went through the Global Menus but all those boxes were unlocked anyway. So tried to save Style in SongBook but without success! Will call the shop today to see if they can help. I have to say that Korg is not an easy keyboard and I'm not a dim chap...never mind...keeps the brain cells going a bit longer I suppose!

Colin

Hi Colin. Just a quick point here. Did you re-enable the edit songbook after visiting Global setting as it needs to be enabled on every new session on the keyboard, before any songbook edits, to save them on a permanent basis. That feature cannot be saved permanently in Global. Hope that helps.

I'm sure that you'll get there quite soon. The keyboard can cause more than a little frustration to us all but I think everything has a logical answer and we're always trying to find them. We generally do in the end...

[kc47]

Hi Keith...Yes, I enabled List Edit and have just double checked again. I also tried to save my "simple" style change in Record Mode...followed everything to the letter until the last screen which then only allowed Exit without saving edited style! Also, whilst in this last screen the keyboard seems to be in a complete hang...ie. no response from any panel buttons or even the Master Exit button. Only way out is to select YES which, of course, loses the saved registration!

I've double-checked all the Global Settings and have tried unlocking them all besides the ones you suggested. I'm completely lost now!!!