Official statement on the status and future of the OASYS

[Daz]

I wonder how many didn't buy the expansions and if they had of bought them all, would things be a little different now. Maybe we would have seen at least one additional expansion ?.

Funnily enough, I had the same thought yesterday when talking with Kevin here about MOD-7 intricacies. I imagine, naively possibly, that if a lot of people really owned MOD-7 there would be a 26 page thread about getting your head around this powerful engine. Not many EXi related queries come up, even relating to basic usage.

Daz.

[rtucker55]

I wonder how many didn't buy the expansions and if they had of bought them all, would things be a little different now. Maybe we would have seen at least one additional expansion ?.

Funnily enough, I had the same thought yesterday when talking with Kevin here about MOD-7 intricacies. I imagine, naively possibly, that if a lot of people really owned MOD-7 there would be a 26 page thread about getting your head around this powerful engine. Not many EXi related queries come up, even relating to basic usage.

Daz.

It would make for an interesting Poll...

[Trommis]

One idea for Korg: Why not cut the price (or give it away) for the LAC-1/MOD-7/EXs3 expansions? Registered users/owners of the OASYS should not have to pay any more money to get the most out of this instrument now that it's discontinued. This would be a nice way to say: "Thank you for buying our future-proof worstation."

Nice idea, but imagine the backlash from everyone who paid for them. For that reason, wouldn't work.

I would rather worry about the backlash from those who payed full price for the OASYS 2 or 3 months before Korg went public with the truth about it's (none existing) future. -Just after the news slipped here in Norway, the price was dropped by 65% for the few remaining units (three/76 and one/88) in store. Many people bought their OASYS at full retail price long after it was (secretly) discontinued by Korg! How about that??

I still think that software that's "outdated" should be sold at a severly reduced price, and that if so, this would be seen as a "thank you for buying our OASYS" rebate by many frustrated customers.

[StephenKay]

I would rather worry about the backlash from those who payed full price for the OASYS 2 or 3 months before Korg went public with the truth about it's (none existing) future.

That's a much smaller group.

I still think that software that's "outdated" should be sold at a severly reduced price, and that if so, this would be seen as a "thank you for buying our OASYS" rebate by many frustrated customers.

Of course you do, because you didn't buy the upgrades (yet) and would benefit from the above strategy. I'm sure others who paid for the upgrades would be even more unhappy. I can imagine the posts now: "Not only did they screw me on the discontinuation of the OASYS, but I paid full price on the upgrades and now they are screwing me on that too!" It's just not a feasible suggestion, IMO. Good luck with it, though.

[Daz]

The answer is simple ... create a new EXi and give to all of us for free

[StephenKay]

The answer is simple ... create a new EXi and give to all of us for free

[Trommis]

Of course you do, because you didn't buy the upgrades (yet) and would benefit from the above strategy. I'm sure others who paid for the upgrades would be even more unhappy. I can imagine the posts now: "Not only did they screw me on the discontinuation of the OASYS, but I paid full price on the upgrades and now they are screwing me on that too!" It's just not a feasible suggestion, IMO. Good luck with it, though.

Wrong again! The first I did after recieving my OASYS, was to buy unlock codes for LAC-1 (at full price). Next up is MOD-7 (also at full price)....

You don't seem too care too mouch about those that feel screwed by the discontinuation, so why this sudden interest in those few who may react in a negative way if you "give away" software???

[StephenKay]

You don't seem too care too mouch about those that feel screwed by the discontinuation, so why this sudden interest in those few who may react in a negative way if you "give away" software???

It's not a few, IMO it would be a lot. It would be further negative publicity on top of what's already there. I don't see why Korg would open themselves up to that. Make a few people feel better, make a bunch of people feel worse? I don't see it happening.

BTW, I care, as do Jerry and Dan. I've just been trying to point out that there's not a lot we can do, or that Korg can do, and for what I consider to be good reasons. You can either accept that viewpoint, or not. Many here do not. That doesn't mean that I/we "don't care".

[RC-IA]

the EXIs really really really worth the money they ask for ! that's why i hope some day we will see a pure synthesizer that would from those EXIs

[Rocness]

They could at least sale the EXI at a discounted price.
Things do go on sale ya know.
O but let me guess there's some-kind of reason they can't do that ether.

I luv the Oasys I really do but they sold us The Oasys like they sold a boat ride on the Titanic. They said the Titanic could not sink they said The Oasys was future proof. So to all the people at Korg please give us Oasys
owners some-kind of life raft. O I forgot you have to pay for that life raft,
and future life rafts will only be announced when available so for now you die
and have a nice day.O by the way our new smaller cheaper boat has everything going for it so where going to focus on that. see ya

[MartinHines]

They could at least sale the EXI at a discounted price.
Things do go on sale ya know.
O but let me guess there's some-kind of reason they can't do that ether.

Korg Japan could discount EXis or even give them away for free. However, most of our "experts" don't think that is going to happen, given the discontent that would generate with the people who paid full price for the EXis.

they said The Oasys was future proof.

Specifically who is "they"? I have never, ever seen any official Korg literature that stated the OASYS was "future proof". If you heard that from a retailer, go yell at the retailer.

While it is unfortunate OASYS development stopped after 4 years, NO product is "future proof". Let me repeat that again -- NO product is "future proof".

The OASYS had a good run, and if not for the depressed economic conditions around the world, the OASYS probably would have been supported for a few more years. However, a person is crazy if they thought Korg would support the OASYS forever. No manufacturer continues development of a product forever.

[Rocness]

They could at least sale the EXI at a discounted price.
Things do go on sale ya know.
O but let me guess there's some-kind of reason they can't do that ether.

Korg Japan could discount EXis or even give them away for free. However, most of our "experts" don't think that is going to happen, given the discontent that would generate with the people who paid full price for the EXis.

they said The Oasys was future proof.

Specifically who is "they"? I have never, ever seen any official Korg literature that stated the OASYS was "future proof". If you heard that from a retailer, go yell at the retailer.

While it is unfortunate OASYS development stopped after 4 years, NO product is "future proof". Let me repeat that again -- NO product is "future proof".

The OASYS had a good run, and if not for the depressed economic conditions around the world, the OASYS probably would have been supported for a few more years. However, a person is crazy if they thought Korg would support the OASYS forever. No manufacturer continues development of a product forever.

Ok, first, Do you speak on behalf of Korg ? if so please identify your self.
If not please stop talking like you do and using words like " our experts". I don't think Korg would appreciate that. And it can be very misleading,
or you could say I'm taking you to literally but that is what you did when I said future proof so ok ok ok it's not future prof relax.What I'm saying is
we did not think it would end this soon.

As far for the exis discount or sale:

like I said before, did you read it ."Things do go on sale".
If you by something today, 6 mounts to a year from now or sooner
IT WILL BE ON SALE. sure I might not like it but thats how it is. You
must have never bought anything from Apple before. And stop with the Korg cares about the discontent of people who paid full price, if that is really the case they would have given those same people the god dam sequencer update they have been asking for, from day 1. So anybody
who would be discontent is the ones who got it in the past 3 months or so from the day it goes on sale , and that can be worked out also . So stop with the excuses. And while your at it what happened to the efxs i guess they never said that either right.

[Rocness]

They could at least sale the EXI at a discounted price.
Things do go on sale ya know.
O but let me guess there's some-kind of reason they can't do that ether.

I luv the Oasys I really do but they sold us The Oasys like they sold a boat ride on the Titanic. They said the Titanic could not sink they said The Oasys was future proof. So to all the people at Korg please give us Oasys
owners some-kind of life raft. O I forgot you have to pay for that life raft,
and future life rafts will only be announced when available so for now you die
and have a nice day.O by the way our new smaller cheaper boat has everything going for it so where going to focus on that. see ya

Ok guys this is weird !!!!!!!!!!
After my last post comparing the Oasys to the Titanic, as far as expectations, this was the main story on yahoo right now

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090531/ts ... torypeople

weird

[weymouthfox]

Excellent last 2 posts Rocness, couldn't have said it any better!

[MartinHines]

Ok, first, Do you speak on behalf of Korg ? if so please identify your self.

I have been a member of this forum since 2003 (compared to your "March 2009" joining). If you would use the search function you would know:
-- I don't work for Korg
-- I am just a regular user
-- I was one of the first OASYS owners (I purchased an O88, #30).

While you are at it, why don't you identify yourself?

If not please stop talking like you do and using words like " our experts". I don't think Korg would appreciate that. And it can be very misleading,

I was primarily referring to Stephen Kay's opinion when I mentioned "our experts". No one short of Korg Japan can make any decision about EXi pricing, and given no Korg Japan decision maker posts on this forum, everyone is speculating.

However, given OASYS production has stopped and Korg Japan has not announced any "free EXi" promotion, many people have concluded they are not planning to do so.

or you could say I'm taking you to literally but that is what you did when I said future proof so ok ok ok it's not future prof relax.What I'm saying is
we did not think it would end this soon.

There is a significant factual difference between "Korg promised the OASYS would be future proof" and "we did not think it would end this soon".

I was simply rebutting your "future proof" statement because I have heard people use it before, and when challenged no one has been able to provide any proof such a claim was made by Korg. Given the sensitive nature of this whole situation (i.e. Korg discontinuing the OASYS) I think it is important to be accurate about statements you attribute to Korg.

Making inaccurate statements such as yours is like throwing gasoline on a fire.

As far for the exis discount or sale:

like I said before, did you read it ."Things do go on sale".

If you by something today, 6 mounts to a year from now or sooner
IT WILL BE ON SALE. sure I might not like it but thats how it is. You
must have never bought anything from Apple before.

Things do go on sale, but you are making a big assumption here regarding the OASYS. Let's both come back here a year from now and see who is correct. Given we are taking about software (not a physical product), there are companies that NEVER discount their software. The personal computer industry (Apple) and the small Musical Instrument industry (Korg) are entirely different markets.

Korg MAY end up discounting EXis someday, but you are foolish to automatically assume they will do so.

And stop with the Korg cares about the discontent of people who paid full price, if that is really the case they would have given those same people the god dam sequencer update they have been asking for, from day 1.

Your statement is illogical.

The OASYS sequencer "issue" has been discussed to death. One can assume Korg did not think it was financially smart to invest in modifying the OASYS sequencer.

I would suggest you poll all of the people who paid for EXis and ask them if they would like Korg to now give those same items away for free. My guess is the people who purchased those options would not be happy about others getting them for free.

The people who wanted an OASYS sequencer update and the peole who purchased EXis aren't two separate groups. As Stephen mentioned, imagine someone who really wanted a sequencer update AND already purchased EXis. I assume they would be doubly upset about Korg giving away free EXis.

And while your at it what happened to the efxs i guess they never said that either right.

Please don't put words in my mouth. Korg did promise the OASYS would have exfs, and they did not deliver on that.

As I have said before (just search) and as others have said, NO ONE (especially Korg) is happy they discontinued the OASYS. However, Korg Japan IS a business, and business owners some times have to make tough decisions to stay in business.

As a customer, you have the right to hate Korg forever and vow never to buy another Korg product again. I, on the other hand, understand that things happen in business, and I look forward to new Korg products in the future.