can i use Pitch Bender and Modulation at same time ?

korg4me · Post by **korg4me** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:23 pm

i change the title maybe it be clear now

as i know and sure in all keyboards i use that i can use BITCH BENDER + or - and i can MODULATION at the same time, but in my PA-500ORT when using PB + or - and i use MODULATION in the same time the tune is RESET to (0), i hope i can explain it right, how to fix this problem ?!

help me please

korg4me · Post by **korg4me** » Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:50 pm

can anyone try it even with pa-800 and post the result ?

korg4me · Post by **korg4me** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:21 am

no one here have PA-500 or PA-800 to test this !!!

what forum is this ?!

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:44 am

I don't notice this problem at all with any factory Sounds or Programs on my Pa2x. Maybe you can provide details of exactly which Sound and Program you are using?

Regards,
Rob

mrniceneasy · Post by **mrniceneasy** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:15 am

korg4me wrote:no one here have PA-500 or PA-800 to test this !!!

what forum is this ?!

Hi korg4me. I'm sure that someone may, in the course of time try to answer any question's if possible. Less than 12 hours may not be enough time for member's to see the post. Patience my friend. Rome wasn't built in a day!

WDMcM · Post by **WDMcM** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:48 am

I have a Pa588 which is very similar to the Pa500 and yes it can generate pitch bend and modulation at the same time.

Try this; find a sound that definitely responds to both pitch bend and modulation. Then hold a note down and push the lever to the upper right (not straight up and not all the way to the right, but to the upper right corner in-between pitch bend and modulation). In other words, if the lever was in the middle of a clock dial, push the lever between 1 and 2.

If this does not produce pitch bend and modulation at the same time, then I would suggest re-loading the operating system and if that doesn't help, then there must be something wrong the pitch/mod assembly.

Dave

korg4me · Post by **korg4me** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:41 pm

WDMcM wrote:I have a Pa588 which is very similar to the Pa500 and yes it can generate pitch bend and modulation at the same time.

Try this; find a sound that definitely responds to both pitch bend and modulation. Then hold a note down and push the lever to the upper right (not straight up and not all the way to the right, but to the upper right corner in-between pitch bend and modulation). In other words, if the lever was in the middle of a clock dial, push the lever between 1 and 2.

If this does not produce pitch bend and modulation at the same time, then I would suggest re-loading the operating system and if that doesn't help, then there must be something wrong the pitch/mod assembly.

Dave

i try this also and the big problem that when i use VSTi in sonar or any other DAW it do this, so its problem in the keyboard or it its a setting i can tweak ?

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:58 pm

korg4me wrote:i try this also and the big problem that when i use VSTi in sonar or any other DAW it do this, so its problem in the keyboard or it its a setting i can tweak ?

That's interesting - what VSTi are you using and how do you know it is designed for use with the Pa588? I didn't think there were any VSTis to support the Pa series keyboards, so I'd like to know about it.

Have you tried waggling the joystick like was suggested earlier?

Regards,
Rob

korg4me · Post by **korg4me** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:24 pm

Rob Sherratt wrote:
korg4me wrote:i try this also and the big problem that when i use VSTi in sonar or any other DAW it do this, so its problem in the keyboard or it its a setting i can tweak ?
That's interesting - what VSTi are you using and how do you know it is designed for use with the Pa588? I didn't think there were any VSTis to support the Pa series keyboards, so I'd like to know about it.

Have you tried waggling the joystick like was suggested earlier?

Regards,
Rob

i mean when i use PA-500ORT as midi input !!! what is wrong in this ?!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:58 pm

I think the joysticks are a particularly weak point in the KORG synths and workstations. I've had numerous problems with mine on my TR61, and the local service engineer I take it to says it is a common problem that they see korg keyboards in for all the time.

I'd recommend you get someone with a bit of experience to check it out, or if its in warranty get in contact with KORG possibly. it is often a connection that comes loose or snagged, either inside the joystick or elsewhere in the assembly.

WDMcM · Post by **WDMcM** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:54 pm

korg4me wrote:i try this also and the big problem that when i use VSTi in sonar or any other DAW it do this, so its problem in the keyboard or it its a setting i can tweak ?

I would suggest that you use a MIDI monitor program like MIDIOX to determine if the keyboard is or is not transmitting pitch bend and modulation. As long as the MIDI settings are correct in the Pa, my guess is that you will find that these values are being transmitted. If so, then I would take a look at Sonar, or whatever program you are using , to make sure that the program is set to receive these values. I know that Sonar by default does not receive aftetouch (another continuous controller) until the user turns reception of that CC# on. So the problem could be similar.

Best Regards,

Dave