Dissappointing buy Esx1

digitalartifacts · Post by **digitalartifacts** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:27 pm

I just want to know a few things before i start trying to sell my Esx 1 after recently buying it. is there a way to record a instrument ( i use a microkorg) into the esx while its playing a drum loop without sampling the drum loop. i tried using bus 3-4 but that will just mute it. even though its geared towards dance / dj i still though it will be a good device . i mainly produce ambient / hiphop type beats. also the sampling time is too short , though it will make users more creative . so is there ways to work around this ?

Dj Pound · Post by **Dj Pound** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:43 pm

4 minutes is a healthy amount of sample time. What exactly are you wanting to do? And as far as recording your Microkorg. Theirs several ways to go about doing it, but why would you want to play your drum loop at the same time that you are trying to record your MK, if you dont want it recorded???

digitalartifacts · Post by **digitalartifacts** » Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:51 pm

im looking to play around on the keyboard with a loop playing, then record the sequence from the microkorg onto the esx, without the drumloop being recorded with the sample. is there a way to do this

Dj Pound · Post by **Dj Pound** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:00 am

digitalartifacts wrote:im looking to play around on the keyboard with a loop playing, then record the sequence from the microkorg onto the esx, without the drumloop being recorded with the sample. is there a way to do this

Oh yeah, thats simple. But first I suggest that you midi' the two machines together for accurate timing if you already havent. Do you have the MK midi'ed up to the ESX?

digitalartifacts · Post by **digitalartifacts** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 12:12 am

yeah but how would you go about recording just the audio in section?

Dj Pound · Post by **Dj Pound** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:08 am

Okay....First go into pattern mode. Play and record your microkorg sequence into the ESX via the keyboard part you have it on.
Once you've done that, solo that keyboard part out and hit shift+record. The ESX will than record only the keyboard part containing the microkorg melody that you've just sequenced. You can either monitor your incoming audio using the audio input button next to the slice button, this will allow you to add effects etc....or you can record the dry input from the audio in thru button near the Tube gain knob.

Hope that helps

digitalartifacts · Post by **digitalartifacts** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 2:31 am

i cant seem to fig it out...i use the keyboard part one, hit record and play the microkorg...but it will play through without saving the sound after the measure repeats/..what your saying is i can keep playing the mk and add onto it until its what i want then sample that? im only using one midi cable though but that shouldnt be a problem. btw i appreciate the help

WeAreTheFuture · Post by **WeAreTheFuture** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:23 am

Dj Pound wrote:4 minutes is a healthy amount of sample time. What exactly are you wanting to do? And as far as recording your Microkorg. Theirs several ways to go about doing it, but why would you want to play your drum loop at the same time that you are trying to record your MK, if you dont want it recorded???

to keep in time perhaps?

Dj Pound · Post by **Dj Pound** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:15 pm

WeAreTheFuture wrote:
Dj Pound wrote:4 minutes is a healthy amount of sample time. What exactly are you wanting to do? And as far as recording your Microkorg. Theirs several ways to go about doing it, but why would you want to play your drum loop at the same time that you are trying to record your MK, if you dont want it recorded???
to keep in time perhaps?

But if he's using midi, it will be in time regardless.

digitalartifacts · Post by **digitalartifacts** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:30 pm

im looking to build upon a track while its playing with the mk, not sample the korg the try and make something of samples....it doesnt seem like theres a way of doing that with the esx

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:01 pm

digitalartifacts wrote:im looking to build upon a track while its playing with the mk, not sample the korg the try and make something of samples....it doesnt seem like theres a way of doing that with the esx

The sampling electribes are groove/pattern sequencers/synthesizers, not really multitrack audio recorders. you want a live looping system or a digital multitrack studio (e.g. D3200, one of those zoom things, or computer software like abletion, cubase, etc).

the sampling is for recording short bursts, loops, oneshots, etc, rather than recording entire tracks.

digitalartifacts · Post by **digitalartifacts** » Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:25 pm

thanks for pointing me in the right direction...im looking into the boss rc50

tim from texas · Post by **tim from texas** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:10 am

I think if you break your track into
Say, 4 or 5 parts rather than one long keyboard you'll be happy...

Intro
Verse
Bridge
Etc.

Then set those parts to the stretch parts in seperate patters or multiples
Of those patters.... Patterns 1-4 are intro 5 is your verse with drums added 6-7 are melody and 8 is your verse9 is bridge(with whatever added or taken away that you want).... Then you use song mode (awesome) to build your track... This is the same process I have used to make my tracks...

You may not be able to play 10 minutes worth of keyboard into the esx but you could into an sp-404 then send it to the
Memory card chop it up with the computer... Load it to the esx and roll with it... It works well I promise !

sts · Post by **sts** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:29 pm

Why you dont do that with software sequencer?

Dj Pound · Post by **Dj Pound** » Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:39 pm

Tims process is very similar to my approach. Except I like to do a combination of programming my external source i.e. the Microkorg and also sampling it, chopping and pasting various riffs etc...and putting all the bits and pieces together in pattern mode, than organizing everything once more in song mode. I like keeping the whole process self-contained, less stress!