making style using loops

[nabil_kh2]

hey guys

I have some tabla loops that I'm using to try and make some styles. When I play the loops on the computer they sound fine and on the keyboard when i use it as just a sound it sounds fine too, but when i go into Record New Style and open the particular loop it has a lot of reverb and echo. Is there any way I can get rid of the echo?

thnx

[Sam CA]

hey guys

I have some tabla loops that I'm using to try and make some styles. When I play the loops on the computer they sound fine and on the keyboard when i use it as just a sound it sounds fine too, but when i go into Record New Style and open the particular loop it has a lot of reverb and echo. Is there any way I can get rid of the echo?

thnx

May be in that particular style the effect send level for the percussion track is set to a high value.

[Dreamer]

A solution to your problem could be to import the loop in a multipad; then, while you are in the Style mode, you have to press the Menu button and then "Pad assign switch": there you can modify volume, panning and effect-send for each pad. Finally, save all the settings as a new Songbook entry.

[Sam CA]

But you can do all those things for style tracks as well. If this percussion loop is going to be a major part of the percussion track, I wouldn't assign it to a pad. At least that's the way I do mine. I always assign the less important loops, and of course one shot effects to the pads.

[Dreamer]

But you can do all those things for style tracks as well. If this percussion loop is going to be a major part of the percussion track, I wouldn't assign it to a pad. At least that's the way I do mine. I always assign the less important loops, and of course one shot effects to the pads.

You are right; the problem with your approach is that you should find four similar loops of growing complexity to replace one of the drum tracks in the four variations of the style and that's not easy. I have even tried dedicated products like Drums on Demand but was never satisfied with the result. Besides, when there is a loop involving a cymbal you get artifacts (like a faltering sound) when you try to slow down the loop, and this even if you apply some amount of "extending" after you time-slice the loop itself. So I prefer to create loops with simple percussive instruments like congas, bongos, shaker, tambourine, etc and then use them to beef up a style and/or give it a more "live" feel.
...But I would love to discuss this topic more, for sure!

[nabil_kh2]

Hey

Thanks guy's for the replies. I don't think I'll use the loops as a pad, like Sam said, its going to be the main part of the style but I'll have a look at the effects level for the percussion track and see if thats the problem.

bye

[Sam CA]

You are right; the problem with your approach is that you should find four similar loops of growing complexity to replace one of the drum tracks in the four variations of the style and that's not easy. I have even tried dedicated products like Drums on Demand but was never satisfied with the result. Besides, when there is a loop involving a cymbal you get artifacts (like a faltering sound) when you try to slow down the loop, and this even if you apply some amount of "extending" after you time-slice the loop itself. So I prefer to create loops with simple percussive instruments like congas, bongos, shaker, tambourine, etc and then use them to beef up a style and/or give it a more "live" feel.
...But I would love to discuss this topic more, for sure!

You're right. Whatever I said was under assumption that you have the perfect loops for the style and all that. If an audio loop is too fast or too slow for a style, I wouldn't even consider using it.