Hey guys,
I just picked up an R3 as my first hardware synth. It sounds great, but i'd say 75% of these sounds aren't my cup of tea. All i really want in life is a fat rich thick distorty lead sort of sound. like the generic "synth" lead sound, but of nice quality. Also some thick chord sounds sort of like a distorted electric guitar would be sweet.
Where should i head to look for and/or create these?
Am i too much of a noob to appreciate the variety thats in this baby?
I listen to music like Animal Collective i guess and want to play w/ some synthpoppy stuff like Passion Pit for fun. I don't want space sounds or crazy things.. just "normal" synth stuff. Make any sense?
Not feeling the stock R3 presets
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Yeh. I do like some of the Microkorg presets. Are the R3 microkorg presets of higher quality than on the microkorg sincie the R3 has MMT and supposedly better fidelity? Or am i working at "microkorg" quality? either way, sounds good to me.
Last night i played with the synth on top of a lot of tracks that my band and I have recorded. its mostly standard rock sort of music. I noticed that a lot of patches really came to life with the band. they sat in the mix really well and sounded great. I guess alone i couldnt imagine how they'd work with the music, but once mixed it sounded a lot better than i thought they would. Its a whole new can of worms. So now i need to play with all the patches again with some music behind them.
Last night i played with the synth on top of a lot of tracks that my band and I have recorded. its mostly standard rock sort of music. I noticed that a lot of patches really came to life with the band. they sat in the mix really well and sounded great. I guess alone i couldnt imagine how they'd work with the music, but once mixed it sounded a lot better than i thought they would. Its a whole new can of worms. So now i need to play with all the patches again with some music behind them.
first of all...im getting really tired of people whining about how they don't like the factory sounds/presets (grow up people)
these are meant to give stupid amateurs ideas but not necessarily that you should just settle for that!
second...IT'S A SYNTHESIZER!!! therefore you EDIT the freakin sounds to your own freakin liking! DUH!
it's not like the people at KORG are gonna make a unique sound based on every single persons "specifications"...THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE!!!
in this world you take what you get or leave it! so we should all stop crying like big babies and tweak like we can't satisfy our cravies!
sheesh
these are meant to give stupid amateurs ideas but not necessarily that you should just settle for that!
second...IT'S A SYNTHESIZER!!! therefore you EDIT the freakin sounds to your own freakin liking! DUH!
it's not like the people at KORG are gonna make a unique sound based on every single persons "specifications"...THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE!!!
in this world you take what you get or leave it! so we should all stop crying like big babies and tweak like we can't satisfy our cravies!
sheeshRadias is sexiest when "turned on"
i agree, but being my first synth, i can't come up w/ much thats better than theirs.
Any advice on web resources? i know what all the parameter do technically, but i don't have enough experience to know what the technical aspects sound like. if i have something in my head, its random chance i'll find it. I don't know where to start to get there.
Any advice on web resources? i know what all the parameter do technically, but i don't have enough experience to know what the technical aspects sound like. if i have something in my head, its random chance i'll find it. I don't know where to start to get there.
I'm assuming the R3 has a PC/Mac editor. The first thing I'd do is load that up and get it going. Next, google for synthesizer tutorials, and then start fiddling with the various parameters. The R3 has a lot of power in it.
It's not that hard to come to terms with what synthesizers do. When the tutorials get you familiar with what everything does, open up a patch on the computer and start messing with it, and listen to how the sound changes. Start with simpler patches that use the synth, not PCM waves, like leads and string pads. Nothing will get permanently changed unless you save it, so don't be afraid to make dramatic changes.
I'd also suggest saving up for a Radias, or if you have an M3 and don't want to go that far, get the EXB-Radias. The eight notes available get eaten up fast when you get involved patches going on the R3. A two timber patch cuts it to four, because it's playing two sounds, and if it uses unison on the patch, that gobbles up a bunch too. So does a sub-oscillator, which is good for really big sounding patches. The 24 voices in the Radias really come in handy, and for what it does, it's actually cheap. The full control panel makes fiddling with sounds on the fly a sonic adventure, and having up to four different sounds available in one patch is incredible when you can have two sequences and an arpeggiator going at once. I use it mostly for old school style synthesis, but it's like having a modular Moog with presets. I discover something new every time I open up a patch.
It's not that hard to come to terms with what synthesizers do. When the tutorials get you familiar with what everything does, open up a patch on the computer and start messing with it, and listen to how the sound changes. Start with simpler patches that use the synth, not PCM waves, like leads and string pads. Nothing will get permanently changed unless you save it, so don't be afraid to make dramatic changes.
I'd also suggest saving up for a Radias, or if you have an M3 and don't want to go that far, get the EXB-Radias. The eight notes available get eaten up fast when you get involved patches going on the R3. A two timber patch cuts it to four, because it's playing two sounds, and if it uses unison on the patch, that gobbles up a bunch too. So does a sub-oscillator, which is good for really big sounding patches. The 24 voices in the Radias really come in handy, and for what it does, it's actually cheap. The full control panel makes fiddling with sounds on the fly a sonic adventure, and having up to four different sounds available in one patch is incredible when you can have two sequences and an arpeggiator going at once. I use it mostly for old school style synthesis, but it's like having a modular Moog with presets. I discover something new every time I open up a patch.
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if you have it connected propperly, you should just be able to play.fuwafuwa wrote:When you open up the R3 editor, can you preview the sound of a patch directly, or do you have to dump the patch to the R3, listen, and go back to the editor?
every edit you make is transmitted to the edit (current program) buffer. similarly when you select a program in the editor, it is transmitted as the current program (without directly overwriting the programs stored in the synth, because it is only going to the temporary edit/current prog buffer memory)
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Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
Places to find patches
Though I completely understand folk's comments about editing sounds, using the included editor software to load sounds from around the web is another good way to get some fantastic sounds.
The Korg website has fantastic downloads for the R3 from the MS2000, MS2000B and microKorg (http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=279). Go to support and scroll down to Bonus Program.
Also, between the sounds available for download from this forum's site and sounds available on the Yahoo R3 user group, I've found a lot of really good mind blowing sounds (including fat rich thick distorty leads).
I've probably swapped out 60% of the initial presets with sounds found from these other sites and then tweaked them all to my personal taste (it's amazing what turning a few knobs can do to change a sound on the R3).
My 2 cents.
The Korg website has fantastic downloads for the R3 from the MS2000, MS2000B and microKorg (http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=279). Go to support and scroll down to Bonus Program.
Also, between the sounds available for download from this forum's site and sounds available on the Yahoo R3 user group, I've found a lot of really good mind blowing sounds (including fat rich thick distorty leads).
I've probably swapped out 60% of the initial presets with sounds found from these other sites and then tweaked them all to my personal taste (it's amazing what turning a few knobs can do to change a sound on the R3).
My 2 cents.