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I vote "Babosh" for "man of the year", for his passion to create this software .
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Babosh wrote: Copy Styles per Drag/Drop between to instances
Auto-change of sounds in the imported styles/sts, the user should import the sounds manually from the source SETs, according to the Import Report generated by the software. This is a very important step towards the full automatic merging of sets.
Thanks Babosh,

Does this list correspond with version 1.0.27? Or It's gonna show in upcoming releases?
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Hello everyone,

As we all know, specially for the Pa800 owners, sometimes we do deal with not enough sample memory. Believe me this happens a lot for the musicians whom mostly use customized user sets. Enough talking and lets go to my suggestion:

There are times that 2 styles share one or 2 user sounds, user DK and so on... To save memory and space, sometimes we do delete a style we do not like but to delete this style we must also delete what it is linked too such as user sounds and user DKs and so on...But to do this and If not careful this process could cause another style and pad to lose its sounds because both are sharing the same user sounds and so on.....

My suggestion to Babosh:
By using the software, could it be possible to check and look at a user sound, drum kit or what ever and to see which styles they are linked too. This way, we save time and make sure not to delete that particular sample sound or user sound. By doing this way, I know memory wise we will not be in advantage but at least we will not destroy another :wink: style.

Hope I am making any sense. It is is always hard for me to explain an issue with out going over board and very sorry for giving you guys a big headache.

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sehasafade12 wrote:Hello everyone,

There are times that 2 styles share one or 2 user sounds, user DK and so on... To save memory and space, sometimes we do delete a style we do not like but to delete this style we must also delete what it is linked too such as user sounds and user DKs and so on...But to do this and If not careful this process could cause another style and pad to lose its sounds because both are sharing the same user sounds and so on.....

Best regards,
Fahim

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Hi Fahim, excuse me for being a little 'dense' here but how can you remove sounds, pads etc in User by deleting a style? Surely it's the style that links to the User or onboard sounds and pads that you yourself originally linked to. When the style is deleted and another one put in it's place that new style doesn't then link to the original removed styles defaults! Confused! :roll:
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mrniceneasy wrote:
sehasafade12 wrote:Hello everyone,

There are times that 2 styles share one or 2 user sounds, user DK and so on... To save memory and space, sometimes we do delete a style we do not like but to delete this style we must also delete what it is linked too such as user sounds and user DKs and so on...But to do this and If not careful this process could cause another style and pad to lose its sounds because both are sharing the same user sounds and so on.....

Best regards,
Fahim

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Hi Fahim, excuse me for being a little 'dense' here but how can you remove sounds, pads etc in User by deleting a style? Surely it's the style that links to the User or onboard sounds and pads that you yourself originally linked to. When the style is deleted and another one put in it's place that new style doesn't then link to the original removed styles defaults! Confused! :roll:
Hello dear Keith,

I think you miss understood me. Deleting a style just by itslef will not save you any memory. Now just remember this is a user style and not a style that is linked to factory sounds. This nothing to do with linking, it is just a matter of not wanting that style on your keyboard that is taking memory space. When ever you delete a styles that also shares the same drum kits, percs and some other user sounds(not factory sounds) with othes style/s, this process will cause the other style/s to be with out sounds. Yes, you always can reload the user sounds back again and link them and that is what I usually do. But knowing which user sounds not to load and which ones to load again is what I like to know in advanced. That is what I am asking if the software could pinpoint to what I am asking.For example, What happens if 6 or 10 styles share almost the same user sounds. Imagine how long it will take to check every one of them via kyboard and write everything down. Also as you said I have linked them orignially, no I have not, these sets are made by others and already linked. Hope my explanation is clear... I am really sorry if I confused you.


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sehasafade12 wrote:When ever you delete a styles that also shares the same drum kits, percs and some other user sounds(not factory sounds) with othes style/s, this process will cause the other style/s to be with out sounds
Hi Fahim,

Sorry to jump in here, but whenever I delete my own Styles that use my User Sounds with PCM Samples, the User Sounds and PCM Samples are never deleted. Could you run through the menu functions that you are using that cause this to happen?

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Rob Sherratt wrote:
sehasafade12 wrote:When ever you delete a styles that also shares the same drum kits, percs and some other user sounds(not factory sounds) with othes style/s, this process will cause the other style/s to be with out sounds
Hi Fahim,

Sorry to jump in here, but whenever I delete my own Styles that use my User Sounds with PCM Samples, the User Sounds and PCM Samples are never deleted. Could you run through the menu functions that you are using that cause this to happen?

Best regards,
Rob
Hello dear Rob,

That is what I am talking about. Yes, when you delete a style, the User sounds and PCM Samples are never deleted. In order to make more room and memory space, you have to find and delete the User samples(User1, User2 and User DKs) that links to that style. I do this all the time but it is time consuming job.

Here is where my problems starts:

If other styles are linked to User samples that I just deleted then I do have a big issue. Meaning either I have to link these styles to other User Samples and hope they sound close to the original or reload what I just deleted. But if I know in advanced of linkages between these User samples and all the styles via the software,then I could be more careful and not have to write all the names down. For example, I have a style called Kerva and it is linked to Kerva sound in User1, Kerva1 in User2 and Kerva kit in User DK section. Now at the same time styles: Kerva2, Kerwa, Special kerwa also are linked to those User samples. Now If I delete the mentioned style called Kerva by it self, nothing will happen to the other styles. But If wanted to save memory then I must delete the linked User samples too.That is no problem but the other 3 linked styles mentioned above will not work anymore because the deleted User samples were also linked to them. By using the software and hopefully by clicking on any User samples we should be able to see the names of all of the styles and pads that this User sample is linked to. That way, I do not have to check every styles and write down all of the User samples that are linked to them.

Best regards,

Fahim
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sehasafade12 wrote:By using the software hopefully by clicking on any User samples we should be able to see the name all the styles and pads that this User sample is linked to. That way, I do not have to check every styles and write down all of the User samples that are linked to them.
So you basically want the software to generate a report based on a a user sample? Let's say,there's a user sample called "KERWA". You want to be able to see a report showing all the styles,pads..etc that somehow have anything to do with "KERWA", right? Once you see that, then you can make a decision as to what to do with that sample. That's pretty cool actually.
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Assyrianpianist wrote:
sehasafade12 wrote:By using the software hopefully by clicking on any User samples we should be able to see the name all the styles and pads that this User sample is linked to. That way, I do not have to check every styles and write down all of the User samples that are linked to them.
So you basically want the software to generate a report based on a a user sample? Let's say,there's a user sample called "KERWA". You want to be able to see a report showing all the styles,pads..etc that somehow have anything to do with "KERWA", right? Once you see that, then you can make a decision as to what to do with that sample. That's pretty cool actually.
Yes!

That is what I am hoping for and indeed it will be very cool tool to be implemented in Babosh's software. Imagine how much time we can save... a lot.....

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Wow Fahim a great suggestion. That would be so cool. Something like a WRNING pops up informing the operator that the userDk you are deleting are used in following styles. That would be a great feature.
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niranjanjaveri wrote:Wow Fahim a great suggestion. That would be so cool. Something like a WRNING pops up informing the operator that the userDk you are deleting are used in following styles. That would be a great feature.
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Hello dear Niranjanjaveri,
:idea:

The idea of a warning pops up info is even a better one than mine. Great suggestion.

Hope it is possible for Babosh to add this feature.

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Hello admin,

Why can you guys make this post a sticky?

This is a very important subject...As you can see that this post has been shuffled almost at the bottom. If it is changed to a sticky then it will stay at the top....

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Hi all again,

@ all,
Can we please just forget about the STS issue for a while, later we can change it, actually we have a problem note (by ROB) about it in the problem note list therefore it will not be forgotten.

@ Rob
Regarding the track volume, pan setting (CNT, L50, R50), octave transpose, this is easy and will be implemented, I have added it to the PN list


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I vote "Babosh" for "man of the year", for his passion to create this software.
Thanks, that’s very nice from you


@ Assyrianpianist

It is in upcoming releases, we need to test those things before releasing it.
Give me some time


@ sehasafade12, niranjanjaveri, Assyrianpianist

Thanks for your ideas guys, this is not that diffcult.
You know I have many many ideas to implement, but I want to achieve the Auto Merging of sets before start implementing those ideas.

I don’t want to talk about my ideas before implementing and reaching a good level of confidence that it will work, I have already explained one ideas in previous post “the cross correlation of sample”

Another idea “similar to your ideas”, I want to create a user sound report in the following structure:

Show the unused Sound (if any)
Show the usage frequency of a user sound and its size (if the sound is only used one/two times and it occupies a big space) then the user may decide to delete it and replace it with internal or other user sound

So, please don’t hurry lets just try to get those essential things first


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Just to say that the "STS" issue turns out not to be a big issue at all. It corresponds to a subset of the "Style Performance" data that is generated when you do a "Write Style Performance". It is important data that Babosh won't forget about. As Babosh says, he is focussing on the ability to merge SET files containing STYLE data at the moment. In the background (by email) there is a lot of ongoing development and test to get that working. It's looking really good. The functionality includes copy, paste, delete, rename, change sounds, change order within bank. Everything we need to manage merging and management of STYLE data between SET files in different windows.

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Hello everyone,

:roll: :idea:

%100 agree with Babosh and Rob. Keep up the good job.


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