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- thekeymaster
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Well don't get me wrong I love my OASYS and i have had it for 4 years...Ive not used it live mainly because i didn't need to but now I'm doing a new project which will need masses of sonic arsenal so I shall be gigging with it.
The thing is, it's built like a tank and despite what most think it is built to withstand the road as long as you are careful with it but I fully understand peoples decision's not to take such a lovely instrument through the rigour's of the road.
How big are the audio files (on average) that you will be using for your tracks ?
Seeing that you will be getting rid of your M3 why not try out a Fantom G with the full 1GB of sample memory.It's dead simple to use as a sequencer and the audio side is pretty fluent.The only concern would be how many songs and how big a file size will all those songs require?
The G's memory may not be big enough.Its a project based system though so you could have project 1 for your first set and project 2 for the second.Plus there is a load time issue.Depends on file sizes.
Just a thought.
The thing is, it's built like a tank and despite what most think it is built to withstand the road as long as you are careful with it but I fully understand peoples decision's not to take such a lovely instrument through the rigour's of the road.
How big are the audio files (on average) that you will be using for your tracks ?
Seeing that you will be getting rid of your M3 why not try out a Fantom G with the full 1GB of sample memory.It's dead simple to use as a sequencer and the audio side is pretty fluent.The only concern would be how many songs and how big a file size will all those songs require?
The G's memory may not be big enough.Its a project based system though so you could have project 1 for your first set and project 2 for the second.Plus there is a load time issue.Depends on file sizes.
Just a thought.
Neil.
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+ 1 and get a good insurance. I´m also gigging quite a time without a problem andRay wrote: Just make sure you get a good flightcase and enjoy the Oasys on the road.
why do I have such a wonderful sounding and ergonomic keyboard when I don´t play it live ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
It makes you feel comfortable on stage.
Regards
SoulBe
I would concider that as an option too. Within a singel project and with 1 GB installed you can have quick access to up to 50 songs and a whole lot of samples. In fact the 152 track seq. controls all my midi keyboards incl. both samplers & the DR-880. Even my recording machine is perfectly synched to it. I wouldn't be sceptic to bring my Oasys to a typical concert stage but I doubt I would bring it to a small club etc. Things are maybe different now than in the 80's but back then you never knew if someone would suddenly throw a bottle of beer up on the stage. However, just like everybody else here I would always take care of the rigging myself. The first thing I did when I got the O88 was to invest in a solid flight case for it.thekeymaster wrote:Seeing that you will be getting rid of your M3 why not try out a Fantom G with the full 1GB of sample memory.It's dead simple to use as a sequencer and the audio side is pretty fluent.The only concern would be how many songs and how big a file size will all those songs require?
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I recommend a most cost effective, secure, easy to set up solution available to you :
M3 + Laptop containing the Audio Tracks from OASYS.
Under no circumstances take your OASYS on the road unless you have a 2nd one. With care it's surely reliable enough but if it fails you're in a real bind. A faulty M3 is more straight forward to deal with.
Good luck!
Kevin
(any gigs in Dublin? - I'll come along).
M3 + Laptop containing the Audio Tracks from OASYS.
Under no circumstances take your OASYS on the road unless you have a 2nd one. With care it's surely reliable enough but if it fails you're in a real bind. A faulty M3 is more straight forward to deal with.
Good luck!
Kevin
(any gigs in Dublin? - I'll come along).
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I know slightly off topic but as much as you may worry about recorded material and audience reaction....I think its more to do with the visual aspect of a performance.If an audience can see something is obviously being played back from say a laptop/recorder they then tend to judge quicker.
Being behind a keyboard sort of gives you a bit more of a cover if ya like...its not obvious to all where the sound is coming from,sad but true.
Kevin's advice is the most cost effective but after checking the specs on my Fantom it will handle with 544MB of RAM 54 mins of stereo sampling.With 1GB installed you are looking at nearly double that. I think you could get away with the G for what you need.Load times for say 512MB would be about 7 mins I reckon,not too long while you are setting your PA up etc etc.
Its worth a look Sharp cause Im using the G and my OASYS ...I have some serious processing power between them.They complement each other really well......some may call it overkill,which it is but I'm just greedy.

Being behind a keyboard sort of gives you a bit more of a cover if ya like...its not obvious to all where the sound is coming from,sad but true.
Kevin's advice is the most cost effective but after checking the specs on my Fantom it will handle with 544MB of RAM 54 mins of stereo sampling.With 1GB installed you are looking at nearly double that. I think you could get away with the G for what you need.Load times for say 512MB would be about 7 mins I reckon,not too long while you are setting your PA up etc etc.
Its worth a look Sharp cause Im using the G and my OASYS ...I have some serious processing power between them.They complement each other really well......some may call it overkill,which it is but I'm just greedy.

Neil.
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+10000000000!!! Yes, I played once with my O and it was one of the best moments of my life lolSoulBe wrote: why do I have such a wonderful sounding and ergonomic keyboard when I don´t play it live ? !!!!!!!!!!!!!
It makes you feel comfortable on stage.
But unfortunately I don't feel secure enough to move this beast around and probably won't do this ever again. I just got a Triton Extreme 76 (bye bye PC3X) for gigging purposes



As the Bananarama songs goes, ”it ain't what you do its the way that you do it”SCHWEATS wrote:If Irish audiences do not go for recorded anything , then buy the
new Korg Sv-1 Stage piano , play and sing the tunes period .
Sequence nothing and be done with it.
HTH - Schweats
A laptop or any other obvious second device that looks like Recorder will never be accepted in the pubs here. People are odd that way in Ireland.
If I understand the Fantom G, that doesn't do real streaming either. Loading large volumes of data to RAM will mean it will be very slow and not at all flexible. 1GB of RAM is also nowhere near enough memory.
Sooooo

I'm going to use this, CLICK HERE
It has everything I could ever dream of including two media players that offer real streaming and dedicated buttons to control it. Lionstracs are giving me one for free. I'm just paying for postage, and a motherboard and CPU upgrade. I'll return the favour by recoding myself using it and share some info online.
Regards
Sharp
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"""lionstracs"" sharp?
Just a thought, since you likended this to the Korg M3 "price-wise" a while ago if i remember
- something that would be more advanced than the M3, and good for the studio as well (it's much smaller than the O) More "investable" an instrument than an M3 yes?
I know what you mean with Audiance and recording!. A laptop (in my area anyway) on stage just wouldn't "look" right, and theres no point in "hiding" it - you shouldn't have anything to hide. the Korg 3200 recorder seems ok, but once again, to the layman audiance, its a "tape-recorder that plays backing tracks" (can you win here sharp?)
The Korg Korg Sv-1 Stage piano's a good idea if your a good performer - if not...
Just a thought, since you likended this to the Korg M3 "price-wise" a while ago if i remember

I know what you mean with Audiance and recording!. A laptop (in my area anyway) on stage just wouldn't "look" right, and theres no point in "hiding" it - you shouldn't have anything to hide. the Korg 3200 recorder seems ok, but once again, to the layman audiance, its a "tape-recorder that plays backing tracks" (can you win here sharp?)

The Korg Korg Sv-1 Stage piano's a good idea if your a good performer - if not...

KORG KRONOS 88-Korg D3200-Casio Privia PX-830BP-KAWAI RX-2 Grand Piano
Sequencing: KRONOS/Cubase/Cubasis/iPad air2
JOHN 3:16
Sequencing: KRONOS/Cubase/Cubasis/iPad air2
JOHN 3:16

Should have my hands on this in the next week or so.

Regards
Sharp.
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You can kind of see the audio player in the top left of this screen shot.

I can use that or the performance function ( Bottom middle) which will recall everything, wave files and my VSTi sounds for me to play over with.
So a pretty straight forward touch and go system. No messing around.
Regards
Sharp.

I can use that or the performance function ( Bottom middle) which will recall everything, wave files and my VSTi sounds for me to play over with.
So a pretty straight forward touch and go system. No messing around.
Regards
Sharp.
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- mocando
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One humble comment regarding this whole thread, Sharp. It has happened to me that I want to get the same exact sound I'm looking for and not a close candidate. But is just me, the audience hears the sound you give them and they like it anyway.
You can break your back trying to lug around a big piece of hardware, long nights designing sounds, sequencing, and at the end of the day, no matter what sound you play live, people will still love it, or if they don't like it, you may be playing out of an O, and still they think the sound sucks.
Maybe in Ireland is different, but here the audience are not musicians, so they have lower expectations.
You can break your back trying to lug around a big piece of hardware, long nights designing sounds, sequencing, and at the end of the day, no matter what sound you play live, people will still love it, or if they don't like it, you may be playing out of an O, and still they think the sound sucks.
Maybe in Ireland is different, but here the audience are not musicians, so they have lower expectations.
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Hi mocando.
Yeah true, the public wouldn't have a clue either way. It's purely a personal thing with me. As the old saying goes, if something is worth doing it's worth doing right.
Anything less than that and I'd end up hating it soon enough and the last thing I want to do is end up just playing for the money.
Regards
Sharp.
Yeah true, the public wouldn't have a clue either way. It's purely a personal thing with me. As the old saying goes, if something is worth doing it's worth doing right.
Anything less than that and I'd end up hating it soon enough and the last thing I want to do is end up just playing for the money.
Regards
Sharp.
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Well, my ideas was not to sound mediocre. I do try to look for the sounds as good as I can, but sometimes the public don't appreciate all you hard work. I was about to lug around my laptop to a gig for just one single sound, later on I decided to emulate it as close as I could on my M50. Still the people loved how it sounded.
I'm improving my patches every day. I usually pass over most of them, and do small tweaks to make them as good as possible.
Since I do mostly old Prog music, trying to emulate those old synth sounds is very difficult, but still the audience do appreciate your effort for playing it right, instead of having the same exact sound the original performer used. Close enough is enough for them. But not for me. I improve my sounds on every gig.
I'm improving my patches every day. I usually pass over most of them, and do small tweaks to make them as good as possible.
Since I do mostly old Prog music, trying to emulate those old synth sounds is very difficult, but still the audience do appreciate your effort for playing it right, instead of having the same exact sound the original performer used. Close enough is enough for them. But not for me. I improve my sounds on every gig.
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