I need information please! I´m new in this forum

adchiapin · Post by **adchiapin** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:54 am

Thanks to all, and sorry, i will never talk spanish again.
I have a question mocando...when your friend dismantled the M50 and saw the keys...all of them was conected with the same piece of plastic for octaves???

mocando · Post by **mocando** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:05 am

adchiapin wrote:Thanks to all, and sorry, i will never talk spanish again.
I have a question mocando...when your friend dismantled the M50 and saw the keys...all of them was conected with the same piece of plastic for octaves???

jajaja, no please, I was not punishing you, simply a tip. Don't worry, bro. Tranquilo compadre, que no nos van a botar de aquí si hablamos Spanglish JAJAJAJAJA.

As for your question, I'll try to look in the forum for McHale's post with pics of the M50 inners.

adchiapin · Post by **adchiapin** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:07 am

thanks bro! this pictures are very important to me. When i saw them, i can choose the best synth for me!

mocando · Post by **mocando** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:09 am

This is the pic for the keybed: http://s848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49 ... 000443.jpg

And here the whole set. But lets wait for McHale to join the thread and give you his thoughs about the keybed quality and durability.

http://s848.photobucket.com/albums/ab49/mjlarsen/m50/

adchiapin · Post by **adchiapin** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:13 am

oooo noooo....is the same key action to X50... it doesn´t have spings, and the plastic will be broken in a short future.....the TR is best!

Thanks mocando, you are the man! this forums is the best!!! rolandclub sucks!

Gargamel314 · Post by **Gargamel314** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:19 am

adchiapin wrote:sorry for my ignorance but....what is aftertouch? what can i do whit it?? an example please...thanks

When you hit a key, the synthesizer calculates how hard you hit it by measuring how fast the key is pressed. this is called "velocity." AFTER you've hit the key, you can press the key harder, which triggers another controller in the keyboard called "aftertouch." This can be used to do a number of different things. Usually, it will trigger vibrato. Or your sound may be set to respond with raising the cutoff frequency. Or, in a lot of the M3's and M50's acoustic programs, it might raise the volume of the patch slightly.

The M50's synthesizer does respond to aftertouch, but the keybed is not aftertouch-sensitive. The TR's on the otherhand, along with all other Korg Workstations, is aftertouch-sensitive.

Also, just to mention, the M50 does NOT have a sampler, neither does the TR. You can add an option to the TR to give it a sampling engine, but not on the M50. The M50 will NEVER have the sampling option, nor can you load any sample data in the M50. So if you want to be able to load your own samples, don't choose the M50.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:37 am

adchiapin wrote:oooo noooo....is the same key action to X50... it doesn´t have spings, and the plastic will be broken in a short future.....the TR is best!

Actually no - it's better than X50 keybed. It's newer production and it will definitely last longer than X50.

I played TR and it has much worse keys! So my suggestion is GET A M50!

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:19 pm

Depends what you want. The TR felt, to me, like a decent synth action keyboard while the M50 felt, to me, like a half-hearted attempt at a semi-weighted keybed. The M50 felt more unnatural, since it was trying to be something and failing, than the TR, which tried to be something less and succeeded. The 88 key, on the other hand, could be a lot better; I've never tried the 88-key versions of either.

bigbenbullet · Post by **bigbenbullet** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:54 pm

+1 for the 88 key

although, if you're used to synth action keys you'll need some practise in the beginning

I'll never consider anything else anymore now I'm used to it

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:27 pm

Oh yeah, I tried the RH3 action on M3-88. It was STELLAR.

If you can get 88-key version, by all means DO IT!!!

adchiapin · Post by **adchiapin** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:12 pm

I can t buy a m50 88. a i have U$s 1100. This means a....Korg TR, Korg M50, Roland Juno G (used), Korg X50.......
I like the TR and M50, but i m very surprisied with the bad keys from M50. The plastic in a short moment will be broken, it s not a real semi weighted system.
I think....TR is a much more better, is very solid, metal chasis, heavy, and japanese!
Of course that M50 sounds better, but....i want a synth for a lot of years with me.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:43 am

adchiapin wrote:I can t buy a m50 88. a i have U$s 1100. This means a....Korg TR, Korg M50, Roland Juno G (used), Korg X50.......

Then get a M50. It sounds better than all the other synths you mentioned.

adchiapin wrote:The plastic in a short moment will be broken, it s not a real semi weighted system.

It will not be broken, it's better quality than plastic in TR or X50.

adchiapin wrote:I think....TR is a much more better, is very solid, metal chasis, heavy, and japanese!

TR sounds worse (especially pianos) and has much less FX power, which is REALLY IMPORTANT in combis. You will regret it. M50 is also Japanese, what are you talking about

Just get M50, otherwise you'll regret. With TR you're buying old stuff. It's time for some new and better sounding stuff already. Get the M50.

adchiapin · Post by **adchiapin** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:01 am

I understand that the M50 is new, better sounds, current, but the TR construction is much better.
When you sais me that the X50 and TR plastic is worse i concerned to plastic keys. In the X50 (and M50) the key flex, it don´t have a clasical system with springs. Do you understand?
Any plastic that flex eventually it will broke. CRACK!
And, not having springs, the key is strength to return to initial position.

The M50 is japanese¿?¿?¿?¿?? Look the rear panel and tell me the truth please.

I don´t know which to buy!!!!!!!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:08 am

I would suggest that you get a second hand Triton Extreme, Triton Studio/Classic, or even a Karma workstation.

The TR, whilst you can still get it 'new' in places, isn't actually a great workstation and you'll quickly find its limits. I learnt that the hard way and waited three years before I could upgrade to a Karma.

by getting a second hand used workstation you can get more features for the same price or often less than a TR or M50. Its not that the M50 is amazing as such, its just that the TR is worse as a synthesizer. All of KORG's other triton series workstations have the five insert effects, which I think is the most important point.

adchiapin · Post by **adchiapin** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:15 am

Yes!, but here in Argentina don´t have a lot of Tritons and Fantoms and Motifs.....and they are a lot expensive!!!!!!!!
Here, with U$s 1100 i can buy a Trinity, 01/w, XP50, XP60, T3, SY77/99, and a lot of old synths......
A love a Triton and Fantom but.....i can´t spend as much...