Avoiding cutting the sound when changing prog/combi/seq

Terzi · Post by **Terzi** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:55 pm

No use. I wonder what I'm doing wrong...

I set (in prog mode) SW1 to octave down and foot SW assign to foot SW (cc#82). But still I can change octave only by using SW1 button.

I tried also this: I set pitch AMS to foot SW and intensity +12, but it worked a bit wrong. When I first pressed the pedal, nothing happened, but after I released it, sounds goes octave up, and if I press then the pedal, it goes octave down. Not excatly what I wanted.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:13 pm

Terzi wrote:I set (in prog mode) SW1 to octave down and foot SW assign to foot SW (cc#82). But still I can change octave only by using SW1 button.

No, you didn't read what I wrote last time carefully. Set SW1 to octave down; DO NOT ASSIGN CC #82 to anything, since you won't be using it. (You can leave SW2 as SW2 (CC #81) if you like, or use it for some other purpose but not CC #82).

In global settings, change the footswitch assignment so that it's not CC #82; instead, assign the footswitch to SW1 (CC #80). This means that whenever you hit the footswitch, it will act as if you'd just hit SW1, so whatever SW1 is assigned to do in your program, it will do via the footswitch as well.

Terzi · Post by **Terzi** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:28 pm

Hmm... Should this option be also in Triton LE? There's just following options (Global 1.1-3a) for foot SW assign: foot SW (CC#82), Portamento SW (CC#65), Soft (CC#67), Arpeggio SW, Program up, Program down, Song start/stop, Song punch in/out, and Cue list repeat control. No sign of CC#80. Not even in manual.

rootsgroup · Post by **rootsgroup** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:23 am

The sequencer way to switch programs live seemed way more than this ole man could comprehend.... but I got it!

That was the one big stumbling block complaint I had with my TR61, But NO MORE!

Thanks to all on this thread!

Steve Millers Swingtown is handled!

Carl

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:42 pm

Terzi wrote:Hmm... Should this option be also in Triton LE? There's just following options (Global 1.1-3a) for foot SW assign: foot SW (CC#82), Portamento SW (CC#65), Soft (CC#67), Arpeggio SW, Program up, Program down, Song start/stop, Song punch in/out, and Cue list repeat control. No sign of CC#80. Not even in manual.

Maybe not; I only have the TR of course and haven't ever played an Le. If those are all the options you have, then it looks like you're out of luck.

camneely9 · Post by **camneely9** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:17 pm

This post has been something I have been looking to do with the Korg TR61 I have.

I am looking to get as much functionality out of the TR as I can. Basically the idea is to have different zones for the sounds (combi) and have them called up in a certain order. I am still a little confused on how the Sequencer accomplishes this on a larger scale. For the progressive music I play, it might be common to have something like 30-50 patch changes in the course of a song.

All I want to happen is to put my combi's in a set order and organize them into songs. Sort of Folder/File/Prog format.

I am about to start hitting buttons on my Korg TR61. Wish me luck!

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:29 pm

Sequencer mode won't help you with that many changes, so you'll have to get used to having sounds be cut off when you switch.

It's really easy; just put your combis in the right order and (ideally) get a footswitch, assigned to Program Up in global mode, to move through your combis in order.

camneely9 · Post by **camneely9** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:22 pm

Kanthos, So put them in order in the "user" bank correct?

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:30 pm

There is no user bank on the TR. You'll have to overwrite factory combis or programs, but this isn't a big deal; you can easily save a PCG containing all the factory settings in media mode (to selectively reload combis or programs), and you can restore all factory settings from global mode.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:06 pm

That is the main reason why I use sequencer mode - the ability to set up 'combis' for the song without having to go over the factory ones or having to massively rearrange them in general.

I also use sequencer mode because it offers more timbres which is useful when I'm working with an extra MIDI controller board or two.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:58 am

@camneely9

30-50 patch changes for song.. but 30-50 differents patchs?!?!
even in that case the most effective way is the Sequencer mode with a cuelist (up to 200 songs) with a song for every patch.. and you can arrange the set in any way, even repeating songs/paches only pressing the footpedal o the INC button.

But if you need patches only for 1 or 2 octaves and more patches on other keys, you can make more complex sets with the sequencer without loosing your combi banks.

@kanthos

all the TR PROGRAM and COMBI banks are USER banks just preoladed by default, but you canno only edit and rewrite all the programs/combis also you can erase them and load new ones in any location.

Regards.
Alvaro.

camneely9 · Post by **camneely9** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:14 pm

Sigh.... yea 30-50 different patches for one song I played for with this band. I was also sending out lighting cues etc, so I would need to change a patch to send out different CC code etc along with changing sounds. The song was "epic" to say the least.

Ok I am going to spend some time in Seq mode this weekend and see what it can do. So you are saying, new "song" for each combi patch I make.

I like the TR but the dam menu structure is cumbersome at best. But dam i like the bank of sounds it comes with.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:03 pm

Cumbersome, yes, but you're not going to find a much better way to get around the very large number of parameters you're able to edit. The more complex things are, the more you can do with them and the more work it takes to do those things.

Spend a bit more time with it and you'll start to memorize where things are, and be able to switch menus with a few button presses without having to think about it.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:08 pm

Hi

one more thing
if you delete/replace your programs/combis you don't need to have them saved on PCG file on a SD card... in GLOBAL menu you can reload any factory default program/combi global parameters, etc all at the same time or all the programs or combis, or a complete bank or a specific one, also you can load the Demo songs on the sequencer, the second demo song its a nice one to learn how to use the RPPR

Regards.
Alvaro.