Creating a new SET from 2-3 diferent SETS

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:32 pm

Just to clear some other facts, Rob, i was kind a being sarcastic with it but:

I personally combined many sets, for me and for people, Combining sets its
not only Combining them, it also requires overal Sound Levelling...not all the
sets sound the same. Now from experience i know for a fact that if time
combined from all the work between Styles, Sounds, Performance, DrumKits
and Samples into a PER STYLE time i will give it AT LEAST 1 hour per style and
even that is not enough, sometimes takes a lot more...keep in mind this is
sets including Samples too...the guy wants around 200 styles which will require
at least 200 hours of work, divided into days might end up 1 month of work
(i know for a fact, it took me even longer on some sets) of straight day to day
work, as being or going to work every day...now, i live in NYC where rent is
1000$ for a Studio Appt and minimum wage is at least 8$ per hour if working
in KMart as a salesman...or in general is around 100$ a day. Now, how much
will he pay Me, You or anyone??? I dont think the 700$ i offered would even
cover one quarter of what reasonably needs to be paid. This wont be a Hoby
or having fun JOB, it would be a DAY TO DAY work for weeks even months.
I hope people understand the Weight of combining sets...thats why i was
kinda laughing at the 50$ offer...unless there is something i dont know about
combining sets which i know for a fact there ISN'T anything i dont know
about combining sets on a PA arranger.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:38 pm

I do not recomend anyone hiring someone to combine sets:
1. Most of them wont do a good job
2. it is very expensive, dont fall for 100$ prices cuz the person doing it will
give up right at the first attempt, there was cases like that
3. I really appreciate many of my customers-supporters that offer me that
kind of work to do for them but please dont, if you dont understand the
structure of a PA you wont be able to understand the Estimate of the price.

On a 150-200 Styles Combined Set (included all Sounds, DKs and Performances)
i wont do nothing for less then 2200$.
Same goes for creating Custom Styles from scratch, one need day and a half
to create, mix and test one style, at almost 2 days of work for one style.
Everything is just a lot of money, not worth doing it.

Take your time to learn the instrument, see whats going on and day by day
create and combine as much as you can, i dont think its worth paying more
then the synth itself for a combined set and also noone would work for weeks
and months just like that...thats just an advice.

The above goes mostly for us the Oriental people since Combining Western
sets i had no problem, almost everything is made on factory where all you
do is just pull into a new set and thats it. There is no Oriental Set that is
not made of at least 90% of samples. Ned, bear in mind that our sets are
all samples and combining them you might end up not having enough RAM.

nedkamo · Post by **nedkamo** » Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:52 pm

Thank you Nedim, big thank you to Rob and Keith and all who even gave the smallest advice in this forums.You guys a true collegues and musicians.

Nedim(fala mnogu na sekoj eden zbor sto mi go dade kako sovet,preporaka i kako kritika). Mozes da mi se javis sekoj moment ako ti treba nesto(setovi novi). ili bilo sto.A isto taka i ozvucuvanje(Dynacord Forum Line, plus EV speakers total of 8 subs and 14 tops, 5 amps, 3 powermate mixers-1600, wireless mics, and etc).

thanks guys

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:03 pm

Hi Nedim

I agree with you as things stand at the moment, but ...

If Babosh completes his software then I would happily combine sets for $50. It would reduce days and weeks of work down to just a few minutes!

It is unbelievable to me that Korg have neither produced this SET file management software themselves, nor have they been willing to help anyone with file format details - not Babosh, not mickb, no-one. Despite many requests for help, we have all been ignored or fobbed off with weak excuses.

Regards,
Rob

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:10 pm

Right Rob and we can only wish about that...as far i can see Korg is kinda
sleeping lately, i dont know why...sleeping in general, not just this issue.

motor30 · Post by **motor30** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:04 am

i also can add that if you convert any set file from pa80 to pa800, by pa80 converter program, after doing all of these, some samples still won't load as you load user sound/drum...only if you flash the whole set...i don't know what is going on...either the original samples are locked or password protected or something else (os version)...it happens that many of good styles for me was originally produced in pa80...so i got stuck in there for a long time...

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:00 pm

Hi motor30,

I think it is yet another software bug on the Pa2x?pa800. Also the SET files that cause the Pa2x to crash contain converted Pa80 styles. I don't think it is a coincidence what you are saying.

Best regards,
Rob

nedkamo · Post by **nedkamo** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:14 pm

Hi keith i have trouble opening the XRM since is asking me for a path.
Can you help ?
I downloaded everything from your website, i got the PAL viewer, XRM set up but not beeing able to open the XRM132.

PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS

mrniceneasy · Post by **mrniceneasy** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:04 am

Hi Ned. Have sent you a pm but it's still in my Outbox.

Copy the folder XRM2 to C:\Program Files\ on the computer on which you cannot install the program.
That folder includes:XRM.exe, XRM.MDB and ST6UNST.LOG.

Next thing is to start the program and change the parameters path (C:\Program Files\XRM2) to C:\PROGRAM FILES\XRM2\XRM.MDB so the program can find the database.

Last step: press the button Save Parameters Value.

That's it. Hope that helps

Mick Barry the Developer has a Forum here with some advice that may apply to your case...

http://www.palibrarian.net/support/view ... 0&p=38#p38

moebrand · Post by **moebrand** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:44 pm

Hi everyone,
I would like to request you guys to make a video tutorial about this issue " combining sets and upload it on youtube or somewhere for Pa800 users.
Almost all pa users have trouble merging sets and it would be a great help for all.
Thanks all , especially the generous ones who are ready to do it.
Take care
Moebrand

paulbelleza · Post by **paulbelleza** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:48 pm

for motor30...

my friend I was using the pa80 before and I transfer all my styles samples ( from flash cards ) and everything that I have there you just need to play around you need to be patient when you do that because you will need the program of baboosh but the one that is for pa1x to read the PCM and then you will get all the samples with you and ones again you need to play around if you want just send me PM and I will explain to you step by step how to do it you can do it fast if there is not to many samples..
by the way if you have all your flash cards already converter for the pa800 there is not lock there if you already converter is the software that has a bug it will never allow you to get any single pcg or drums only will allow you to load the whole SET... anyways if you need some help just send me a PM...

paulbelleza · Post by **paulbelleza** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:49 pm

for motor30...

my friend I was using the pa80 before and I transfer all my styles samples ( from flash cards ) and everything that I have there you just need to play around you need to be patient when you do that because you will need the program of baboosh but the one that is for pa1x to read the PCM and then you will get all the samples with you and ones again you need to play around if you want just send me PM and I will explain to you step by step how to do it you can do it fast if there is not to many samples..
by the way if you have all your flash cards already converter for the pa800 there is not lock there if you already converter is the software that has a bug it will never allow you to get any single pcg or drums only will allow you to load the whole SET... anyways if you need some help just send me a PM...

motor30 · Post by **motor30** » Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:57 pm

paulbelleza wrote:for motor30...

if you already converter is the software that has a bug it will never allow you to get any single pcg or drums only will allow you to load the whole SET... anyways if you need some help just send me a PM...

paul: if i understand you correctly, this is ture...
so the set files that is coming from pa80 converter program is NOT working properly for pa800 (the lastes os version)...you can find a few discussion on this forum and for now I totally skip those sets...moreover it may damage your instrument as Rob mentioned above... hopefully in near future there will be some upgarde for this program as well!

paulbelleza · Post by **paulbelleza** » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:10 am

Motor30..

I already did the transfer from Pa80 to my Pa800 with that program so didnt happened nothing to my keyboard so I believe I was lucky or I dont think can happened nothing as long you know that you did it its not like you dont know from where is coming from..