Oasys Librarian

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:37 am

Thanks Ken ... I was hoping for the same too. I put a lot of effort into this already and had built a good foundation for doing useful things with it in the future. However there isn't sufficient information to continue to do that reliably.

Derm · Post by **Derm** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:23 pm

I think its a pity that further development has been hindered by lack of support, especially when the program developer is working for no personal gain.

peter m. mahr · Post by **peter m. mahr** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:14 pm

Derm wrote:I think its a pity that further development has been hindered by lack of support, especially when the program developer is working for no personal gain.

!

best regards
peter

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:44 pm

Derm wrote:I think its a pity that further development has been hindered by lack of support, especially when the program developer is working for no personal gain.

Daz hasn't contacted me recently asking for support, so I was a little surprised to read his message here. Updated documentation is indeed available.

- Dan

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:56 pm

That's good to hear, thanks Dan. For what it's worth I did tell Korg during the beta testing of MOD-7 that my application had been broken by the changes introduced with MOD-7, and asked for the necessary information at that point.

So, yes please ... I'd like to have that information and any future information as it becomes available. I'd like to be in the loop for these things, if possible, as I am actively developing stuff for the O (albeit a little slowly due to work demands).

Daz.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:50 pm

Derm wrote:I think its a pity that further development has been hindered by lack of support, especially when the program developer is working for no personal gain.

It's not a "lack of support", but rather a pitfall of working with a proprietary file format that is subject to change as the product develops (which is a good thing). Choosing to "deprecate an application until further notice" because it might not work as expected and that you are not in a position to fix, is the most sensible course of action.

If there were cause for complaint, trust me, I would be complaining in clear and unambivalent terms ... as I have done about my pet peeves (inability to edit in multi-mode etc.)

Distributing software that knowingly doesn't work and might get worse in the future is irresponsible. In a funny way, I'd actually rather expected to be commended for not doing so. It's a difficult decision to make, when you've put a lot of effort into something and have to admit you need to suspend your efforts. Again, as I said, it's a "professional hazard" for people working with something proprietary.

Daz.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:30 am

As I was asked about this offline ... just wanted to clarify that the Randomizer is still alive and well. It's not subject to the same kind of problems, because it relies on knowledge that the application has learned by listening to the sysex data generated when modifying parameters on the Oasys. It's easy for me to re-train it if necessary when/if something changes.

Daz.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:31 am

Ah - glad to hear that. Thought this nice tool wont work any longer, too. As soon as I have my Mac I want to try it!

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:07 pm

Daz,

Since Dan seems amenable to supply you additional information, have you thought about continuing on with the librarian?

I certainly can't speak for others, but personally I wouldn't mind paying for a decent one.

Ken

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:57 am

Dan is being a big help with providing available info, as before, so we'll see. But that's not the whole picture, there are some complex things that maybe require documentation or information beyond what is feasible to ask for. The Oasys keeps changing (no complaints there

) but it means you can't handle the data as opaquely as you could with the Triton or similar when things were more set in stone. I'll got into more details when I get a moment.

More news, as and when ...

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:36 pm

Daz wrote:Note that the Librarian application's Audition function doesn't work with MOD-7 Programs, because Korg changed the way things work without notice.

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This application is now deprecated until further notice. It is no longer available for download.

Dear Daz,

While I fully understand your decision I would like to try to use the librarian as is, in its last version, if possible - certainly for my own risk. I don't use MOD-7 (haven't bought it yet) so I think I could use the librarian for other sounds well. I'm in a big job organizing my sounds. Your software would help a lot.

I tried Stuart Pryer's Oasys Companion, unfortunately without success. Your librarian seems to be the only solution. Please answer how to get it - I'm preferably on Mac but also have Win7.

Thank you in advance,

Akos

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:26 am

Thanks Daz, I already got it from another helpful guy. The software worked (under Win7 emulation with Parallels Desktop on a MacBookPro

) and helped me much.

Too bad we don't have a similar simple librarian utility from Korg for free (renaming and reorganizing Programs and Combis in Banks). As Ken says, "I wouldn't mind paying for a decent one" - but officially it doesn't exist either.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:51 pm

I didn't forget you

I will PM you a link to the last Mac version. It's the better version of the two and the one I will support for friends because I use it myself.

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:41 am

Daz wrote:I didn't forget you I will PM you a link to the last Mac version. It's the better version of the two and the one I will support for friends because I use it myself.

I got it, thanks a million! The Mac version is better and nicer, as usual.

You know it for sure: It would be good to be able to see (and change) the Programs inside a Combi. Make it then sell this great utility to Korg!

Thank you very much again for your kind help. This forum rocks!

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:55 am

Hi Daz -

Might I trouble you to PM the link to me also?

Thanks,
Kevin.