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Help: MIDI foot pedals...

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I don't know that much about MIDI implementation, so any help would be appreciated here.

Do the banks on the KPro ONLY respond to MIDI notes or are the configurable to other MIDI messages? For example, if I had a foot peddl that could transmit CC or Program Change messages, would they be able to control the banks?

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Unfortunately you appear to be stuck with note on/off commands for the bank selects. You can use the computer based editor software to alter the note values (in the EXT.CTRL & GLOBAL>CC MAP tab) but there's no way to switch to CC numbers for the buttons or notes for the other controls. Shame there wasn't an option for both.
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Hmm... That's what I thought after reading so much about how the pad can only be triggered by CC messages. I assumed the ones set as note types would have to remain notes.

Oh well. Maybe Korg will release a footswitch for it...
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Have you got a particular pedal device that issues CC numbers or program changes in mind?
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I was thinking of picking up a Digitech Control 8 from ebay if it would do the job.
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Just read the manual through. Not much use on its own, but you should be able to set up a data map in midiox to convert program changes into note events if you don't mind enlisting a PC. (see http://www.midiox.com/). Alternatively it'd be a wonderful little PIC project to program up if you were into that sort of thing. That's usually what I resort to in order to get things talking.
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Unfortunately, using a PC is exactly what I want to avoid and I have no experience or knowledge of programming.
It's such a shame there doesn't seem to be a small and simple MIDI footswitch for such a purpose. Korg would kill if they released one suitable for use with the KPro.
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It's funny (peculiar) how the KPRO keeps painting people into a corner. You can't help wondering if it's a cock-up or a conspiracy. :lol:

I have a whole bunch of midi ports on my PC that I routinely bash from Visual Basic, so I'm used to writing special programs to do patchbay translations and automations. I find this to be even more flexible than using a "swiss army knife" tool like midiox. However, to keep PC's out of the loop, I can 'see' a little black box that sits between the KPRO midi in and the outside world that 'fixes' a number of issues - including yours. It would be fairly trivial to implement using a few cheap parts - but I'm not in the business of 'making and selling' stuff like this (I bet it would be hard to make it pay).... :-k
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Like the boxes that convert "real" notes into MIDI notes?
And yes, I can imagine it being difficult to make pay well but I still stick to the notion that if Korg made a suitable footswitch for the KPro/KP3, they would sell alot more of those devices because they wouldn't then be as limited as they are to the dance/DJ/electronica crowd and many guitarists would love to have a Boss RC-50 that has synth sounds and drum beats in it, which is essentially what it would be, just with better sound sampling and more capability.
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