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KPro footswitch...

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Does anyone know (obviously aimed at Mr. Formidoni) if Korg are planning on producing a footswitch to be compatible (and maybe even made for) the Kaossilator Pro?

I think it would double the market for the KPro, as many more guitarists would opt for it over its then rivals the Boss, Digiman and Line 6 loopers.

Not to mention also taking business from the likes of Behringer and Roland by allowing Korg users to buy Korg products instead of having to shop elsewhere for MIDI footswitches.

It just seems such a shame to limit this product to the "Dance/DJ" market when it could be so much more. A cheap and cheerful 5-button MIDI footswitch (allowing for at least Banks A-D and Record arm) would be perfect and for the same price or less than, for example, the Boss RC-50, I think many guitarists as well as the dance music crowd would flock to the Kaossilator Pro.

Anyway, that's my two penny's worth.
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and you could play footossillator...that is becoming a staple with my one band
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Mr36 wrote:Does anyone know (obviously aimed at Mr. Formidoni) if Korg are planning on producing a footswitch to be compatible (and maybe even made for) the Kaossilator Pro? ... Not to mention also taking business from the likes of Behringer ... A cheap and cheerful 5-button MIDI footswitch (allowing for at least Banks A-D and Record arm) would be perfect.
You mention Behringer -- I've been using their FCB 1010 for essentially this purpose for several years with the KP3. It's great for switching programs and triggering banks A-D, and I can even use the wah pedals to control the X-Y axes in a pinch. All I have to do manually is hit Record Arm (which I can do way in advance if necessary) so it solves most of my problems. Dunno for sure, but I gotta believe it would work similarly well with the KPro.

True, the FCB costs $200 or so but it's built like a tank, so Korg would have to come out with something pretty damn perfect and roadworthy to tempt me away :wink:
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I'm not disputing at all that it would and does work well with the KPro. I just think that it would be overkill for a lot of KPro users (myself included). Not just for the price tag but for all the switches and pedals that are not required.
It would just have to be a simple footswitch, similar to the type that come with nearly all guitar amps to switch channels/gain/overdrive/reverb (or whatever).

5 buttons. A-D and Rec. Simple and effective. And I am convinced it would work wonders for their sales, which, let's face it, is their primary concern.

As for its roadworthiness and robustness, I've had an AX1000G since they came out God knows when and that still functions fine, so I think Korg could produce a simple footswitch that would hold up.

Again, just my thoughts.
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Mr36, I was just thinking about your requirements for pedal operation and I realised I forgot to point out that there's no external midi command to arm for recording. Neither does external pad X-Y input get recorded even when you manually press a KPRO record button. Does this put you off the idea or would you settle for just starting/stopping playback?
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I would definitely be happy just to being to start and stop banks playing. Also if you could arm for recording manually and then press a footswitch to select the bank to record external audio to, that would be useful. My limited knowledge of MIDI makes me assume that if you did press with REC button with your finger and then activated a bank with a footswitch, it would do the same as pressing a bank with a finger, although in MIDIWorld, this may not be true. Just seems logical to me.

However, yes, Korg, make a simple four switch MIDI footswitch!
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Radian wrote:Mr36, I was just thinking about your requirements for pedal operation and I realised I forgot to point out that there's no external midi command to arm for recording. Neither does external pad X-Y input get recorded even when you manually press a KPRO record button. Does this put you off the idea or would you settle for just starting/stopping playback?
Hmmmm - Does this mean that if the KO-Pro was successfully being played from an external keyboard, that the performance can't be recorded into the KO-Pro's own loopers?
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Mr36 wrote:I would definitely be happy just to being to start and stop banks playing. Also if you could arm for recording manually and then press a footswitch to select the bank to record external audio to, that would be useful. My limited knowledge of MIDI makes me assume that if you did press with REC button with your finger and then activated a bank with a footswitch, it would do the same as pressing a bank with a finger, although in MIDIWorld, this may not be true. Just seems logical to me.

However, yes, Korg, make a simple four switch MIDI footswitch!
Couldn't you use something like a Korg NanoPad!? That way you could utilise it in your PC/MAC setup if it didn't work!?

*edit* Actually scrap that! Be a tad hard to click the buttons with your feet!
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Mr36 wrote:I would definitely be happy just to being to start and stop banks playing. Also if you could arm for recording manually and then press a footswitch to select the bank to record external audio to, that would be useful.
FYI, the Behringer pedal I mentioned can do these things.
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chad9477, I know it can but it's so big and expensive for my needs. Too much of the pedal would be absolutely redundant.

Nanopads require a PC to be used at all and even if it wouldn't be difficult to hit the right pads with your feet, you'd still need a PC/Mac between it and your KPro.

ScottM2, I think all it means is that the record button can't be triggered by the external machine but any audio output it does trigger can be recorded onto the loopers, provided you arm it for recording first.

I'm still surprised that I can't find any small MIDI footswitches that can do these seemingly simple functions. Oh well.
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Post by salamanderanagram »

the behringer's only $140 in some places. i don't think you're going to find anything too much better for cheaper. overkill or no, it's probably the way to go. i'm sure you can find something to do with the other switches ;).
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you know it would be cool if Korg would set up their ECS foot pedal to have a midi adapter

http://korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=136

this product is already in tune to midi note control.

But that means Korg has to manufacture a product.

I need to add another feature request:

In global; loop bank buttons can be set to midi note or CC (Control Change).

The problem is that there are really cool options for foot pedals but none of them out side of the FCB 1010 can send midi note.

If Buttons A-D were CC then I can use my Korg AX3000 as the foot controller. You set the effect board to program lock out but it sends CC numbers. How cool is that?
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Scott M2 wrote:
Radian wrote:Mr36, I was just thinking about your requirements for pedal operation and I realised I forgot to point out that there's no external midi command to arm for recording. Neither does external pad X-Y input get recorded even when you manually press a KPRO record button. Does this put you off the idea or would you settle for just starting/stopping playback?
Hmmmm - Does this mean that if the KO-Pro was successfully being played from an external keyboard, that the performance can't be recorded into the KO-Pro's own loopers?
Not exactly - you can still manually arm banks for record as though you were recording external input, in which case external X-Y is recorded along with external audio (but of course you have to watch the count to get your performance to align to the start of the phrase).

But you can't trigger the record using the external (midi note) bank button command. Incidentally, the manual makes it look as though the bank buttons respond to 'note on'/'note off' commands but in fact only 'note on' has any effect. It toggles the bank on and off with succesive 'note on's. I can't detect any response to 'note off' at all.
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