Rotary effect not so good on PA1X Pro HELP

[centauramp]

Hi all I'm was a roland user and was used to a good rotary effect. I like the overall digital organ on the PA1XPro but I'm not getting a very good rotary effect. I have fooled with the Effects parameters. But I'm not getting much in the way of results. I acctually have a leslie speaker I built myself back in the 70's. It was 200 watts biamped withe elctronic crossover, with reverb and tone controls for upper and lower. I have not used it for years because the Rolands Rotary sounded good. Now that I have switched to korg Im at a loss. As it stands right now, I may get it out of the shed and send the organ to the direct out 2. Any help or ideas would be very appriciated. Thanks Bob

[karmathanever]

Hi Bob

Have to agree with you on this one. I love the B3-Leslie sound but the PA1Xpro just didn't cut it for me. I sampled a real B3 with both Leslie on and off and used (mixed) those sounds to give a "Leslie" effect - it wasn't too bad but of course the Leslie was either slow or fast with no build up/slow down of speed. I also (like you did) tweaked the PA1Xpro's Rotary effect but still couldn't create that classic Leslie effect. The PA2Xpro's Rotary seems to be better.

I have since bought myself the Sonic-Core B4000 (formally Creamware B4000) sound module and it is magnificent (for me) - I love it!!

Cheers

Pete

[Charley Brown]

Hello Pete and Bob:

I have a B-3 and 122 Leslie speaker setting in my garage. I love the spatial Leslie affect, especially the ever changing difference between start up and slow down of the top horns compared to the bottom drum. I mounted a momentary switch on the side of the expression pedal and worked it continually to fill, swell and accent. The 360 degree ambiance goes far beyond anything two stereo speakers can produce because it reflects off of all the walls, ceiling, floor and furniture in an ever changing 360 degree Radias. It's hypnotic, nothing compares. I gave up gigging with it because it's just too heavy to lug around. I think it weights 400 pounds plus another 50 including the dollies. The Leslie is also cumbersome and heavy. My friends soon became scarce at set up time and so half the time I used to load and unload it by my self (one end at a time). Forget it!

Anyway, I agree with you and miss that dynamic Rotary Leslie Effect produced by the swirling horns vs. the drum. Nothing comes close.

Pete ~ What is your opinion regarding the Xprodata XMS-2 Organ Legends? Does that simulate the progressive and dynamic speed up and slow down similar to the Leslie 122 cabinet?

Thanks ~ Charley Brown

[karmathanever]

Hi Charley

The XMS Organ Legends board is very good but there is no "Rotary Effect" as such - they seem to use sounds with leslie slow and sounds with leslie fast then switch between them. So the actual sounds are vey authentic but there is no rotary effect that you can use.

Cheers

Pete

[Charley Brown]

Pete ~ Thanks for the "Low Down" on the XMS-2.

Have you ever tried the "Boss RT-20 Rotary Speaker Sound Processor"? If so, is it any good?

Thanks again~ Charley Brown

[wittid]

Hi Charley

The XMS Organ Legends board is very good but there is no "Rotary Effect" as such - they seem to use sounds with leslie slow and sounds with leslie fast then switch between them. So the actual sounds are vey authentic but there is no rotary effect that you can use.

Cheers

Pete

Not switch - fade is more correct.
You can do it with a fader or an expression pedal - so you fade between the fast and the slow sample - in the speed you like and need.

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Detlef

[karmathanever]

Not switch - fade is more correct

Yes - that is a much better way of describing it.
They have set up the joystick Y-axis to fade from slow leslie sound to fast leslie sound - it is very effective and fun to use but you still have no controll over Leslie speaker speeds etc...

Hi Charley - no I have not tried the BOSS RT-20 - I think a old lost friend of mine actually researched this a while ago and I am pretty sure he tried one (but didn't buy it as far as I can remember - if I can get in touch with him I'll ask for you.

Cheers

Pete

[kgardner]

As well as slow/fast speed change as already discussed, remember that the rotary on/off switch can also be programmed to operate with joystick, EC5, assignable swithes etc. Try that and you will find that it will slowly "wind down" from fast speed to dead stop. Using this on/off switching instead of speed change offers some other classic effects as offered on the Hammond XK-C3 as the Leslie "BRAKE" function. Although the operation of it is poorly described even in the Hammond owners manual, it actually permits a progressive change in speed from fast to stop.

[pauli]

Hey Guys check out ths new unit......sound very very authentic

http://www.neo-instr...id=47&Itemid=53

[kgardner]

Yes, the speed can be cotrolled manually with a continuous controller (expression/volume pedal). See the new thread I started on this. It is one of the available controls. There are the three controls you can set up to do in real time as you are actively playing:
1. slow/fast speed change
2. on/off as described in my previous post
3. manual speed control
Korg has not missed vital musical realities!

[karmathanever]

Hi Pauli

"http://www.neo-instr...id=47&Itemid=53"

Can you please re post the full link - thanks

Pete

[admar]

I'm not sure, but I guess this is what Pauli was reffering to: http://www.neo-instruments.de/en/ventil ... r-features
There are quite a lot of videos on YouTube.
Demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIfCwo3aD-0&NR=1
Just a song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJzQ5het ... re=related

Admar

[pauli]

Yes, and thanks Admar that is the correct web site....Hello Pete"