programing fcb1010 foot controller for kp3

Grizzle · Post by **Grizzle** » Tue May 18, 2010 7:39 pm

Here is a video i made a while ago. This might help some people program.

http://youtu.be/CDcUG29swqE

Update: The A-D buttons fail to record but start sample playback may be caused by old firmware. After updating the firmware reset the kp3 to factory defaults if not all loop lengths are available(2,4,8,16).

http://news.thecasualdistractions.com/2 ... g-kp3.html

The Solved Question:

I would like to have my pedal work like this...

"I mapped the first four switches to the KP3's A-D sample buttons. Two more switches turn the KP3's Hold mode on and off, respectively. When Hold is on I can use the expression pedals to control the touch pad's X and Y axes. The only bad thing about this setup is the fact that Korg didn't enable MIDI control of the Sample button. There's no getting around having to arm the sampler by pressing it on the KP3 itself."

here is a link to the article.

http://news.thecasualdistractions.com/2 ... g-kp3.html

I'm Guessing i have to program this thing with the global configuration, but i cant seem to figure this s**t out.

Anyone know how to do this so i can make an idiots guide for midi beginners like myself?

Grizzle · Post by **Grizzle** » Wed May 19, 2010 1:34 am

ok.... i got this thing programed... ish

i have a-d playback working on bank 1 stomps 1-4.... will turn playback on and off, but it wont record for some reason.... need to figure that out...

i set hold on and off on bank 1 stomp 5, and 10 with use of expression pedals a and b via x and y axis. f*ck*ng expression pedal b is broken... have to send this bitch back to Amazon.

if both pedals worked i would have full control over any effect i want. almost done after i replace and reprogram this s**t.

Mr36 · Post by **Mr36** » Wed May 19, 2010 10:27 am

I'm pretty sure that you're not going to be able to configure anything to "press the Sample button" for you. It's the same with recording on the KPro. You'll just have to arm the sampling by hand when you're ready to record,I think.

chad9477 · Post by **chad9477** » Wed May 19, 2010 1:54 pm

Mr36 wrote:I'm pretty sure that you're not going to be able to configure anything to "press the Sample button" for you. It's the same with recording on the KPro. You'll just have to arm the sampling by hand when you're ready to record,I think.

MR36 is right about this. You can't control the KP3's "record" button with MIDI; you'll have to arm it manually. Every other step in recording, however, you CAN do with a FCB1010.

Kinda surprised your footpedal is busted -- I own two FCB's and they are built like tanks. Send it back and get another one if Amazon will let you.

Grizzle · Post by **Grizzle** » Wed May 19, 2010 2:59 pm

Mr36 wrote:I'm pretty sure that you're not going to be able to configure anything to "press the Sample button" for you. It's the same with recording on the KPro. You'll just have to arm the sampling by hand when you're ready to record,I think.

I understand that... the problem isn't hitting the sample button... its that after hitting the sample button the a-d doesn't work anymore... used the following...

1 note on/off #36 (SAMPLE A button)
2 note on/off #37 (SAMPLE B button)
3 note on/off #38 (SAMPLE C button)
4 note on/off #39 (SAMPLE D button)

from - http://zodiacrobatic.com/category/ableton/

it will start and stop loops a-d just not record... any ideas?

chad9477 wrote:Kinda surprised your footpedal is busted -- I own two FCB's and they are built like tanks. Send it back and get another one if Amazon will let you.

they are going to cross ship so i can still kinda use this thing, all i can say is what fun. kinda surprises me that korg doesn't make their own pedals for this.

i have the kaoss pad plugged into the 1/4in effects loop on my carvin c1644mixer, its badass. i have a kaossilator hooked up as well but it feels a little toyish. kinda want to get a kaossilator pro to use, but it seems like the next generation kpro will have worked out a lot of the problems people are having.

Mr36 · Post by **Mr36** » Wed May 19, 2010 3:56 pm

It surprises me too. I've said in other posts (at length) about how sure I am personally that a dedicated footswitch for the Kaoss products would go down a storm. Even more guitarists would use them, as well as people who play other instruments or keyboard parts that require two hands.

Anyway, fair enough. I just misunderstood your problem. I'm not sure why it's not making them start recording. I'd have thought that the same message to turn them on/off would also turn them/on off for recording.

chad9477 · Post by **chad9477** » Wed May 19, 2010 5:07 pm

Mr36 wrote:I'm not sure why it's not making them start recording. I'd have thought that the same message to turn them on/off would also turn them/on off for recording.

Me neither. When I use my FCB for this purpose, I hit the pedal I have programmed to turn the bank on/off, and as long as I've armed RECORD, it starts recording to that bank. Hope you have better luck with your replacement.

Mr36 · Post by **Mr36** » Thu May 20, 2010 10:28 pm

I have a feeling I've asked or at least suggested this before...

But do you think you'd be able to configure the FCB1010 to either hit particular points on the X-Y pad on the KP3 or play specific notes on the KPro?
As I've definitely said before, I don't fully understand MIDI stuff yet but would it be possible to assign a few of the different footswitches to actually trigger different notes? Could it work with CC and a velocity number or some other such figure? So the CC tells the KPro that the switch is affecting the X axis (pitch) and then the figure tells it how far along to go. Could it work like that?
It would be interesting to be able to either play the FCB1010 like a limited mini (but chunky) keyboard or even to trigger notes like a Moog Taurus! :p

chad9477 · Post by **chad9477** » Fri May 21, 2010 2:30 pm

Mr36 wrote:...would it be possible to assign a few of the different footswitches to actually trigger different notes? Could it work with CC and a velocity number or some other such figure?...

Never done it with my FCB, but I'm pretty sure it can trigger individual notes on MIDI-equipped synths. A few years ago I read a post on some other forum where a guy was playing his synth this way, said he was having lots of fun being Geddy Lee

Seriously though, I don't have a KPro, but the FCB can almost certainly send the necessary signals if the KPro can receive them.

Mr36 · Post by **Mr36** » Fri May 21, 2010 3:03 pm

Well, as I understand it, the KPro receives and understands only CC messages for the pad operation. Three of them. One for X, one for Y and one for pad on. So to get the positions on the axes, can you set a value for CC messages? Or is a CC messages just on or off commands?
I'd assume the KP3 operates in the same way, so to get the effect of a particular place on the pad, it would require three CC messages too. Maybe you could try it with the KP3? I'd guess that if you can make it pick out a particular pad position with a FCB switch, the same could be done for the KPro, allowing for notes to be played.
Just a thought...

I didn't actually know the name Geddy Lee until just now but yes, like that. Fantastic.

Grizzle · Post by **Grizzle** » Fri May 21, 2010 7:53 pm

ok... i got the new pedal, everything works. I updated to the latest firmware on the kp3, now the a-d functions work in full including after sample is hit. i have run into a little snag now. after updating to the latest firmware the sample only lets me record up to 4 bars... so now my only record options are 1,2, and 4. anyone know wtf is happening now?

Mr36 · Post by **Mr36** » Fri May 21, 2010 7:59 pm

Well, 4 bars (16 beats) is the maximum sample time. But if you meant 4 beats (1 bar) and not 4 bars, I'm not sure what has occurred... :/

Grizzle · Post by **Grizzle** » Fri May 21, 2010 8:03 pm

Mr36 wrote:Well, 4 bars (16 beats) is the maximum sample time. But if you meant 4 beats (1 bar) and not 4 bars, I'm not sure what has occurred... :/

duh.. thats what i meant... but wow i just got it. i reset the factory settings on the kp3 even though i hadn't changed anything and now it works... what a sly little machine. trying to trick me.

Grizzle · Post by **Grizzle** » Fri May 21, 2010 8:16 pm

so is there a way to make the stomp buttons control 2,4,8,16 beats after hitting sample? also how do you change the playback method after updating to v2 firmware. i read the instructions somewhere and now i cant find em.

Mr36 · Post by **Mr36** » Fri May 21, 2010 9:24 pm

I'm not sure if you can change the sample length with MIDI. I'd guess it would be a program change message but with Korg, who knows?

As for the playback method, if you mean the v2.0 options of play/stop and reset, gated play/stop and reset, play/pause, gated play/pause, you go to the Sample Edit screen (shift + sample button) and then press down the Program/BPM button. You'll now be in the sample playback menu.

And yes, they are tricky little blighters, these machines!