BC3A to control Extreme and Fantom

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BC3A to control Extreme and Fantom

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is there a way i can use my breath controller to controll two keyboards, my triton extreme and my roland fantom? thanks guys
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Yes there is.

1. Plug Yamaha BC3 headset in Midi Solution's Breath to Midi Box. (Mini Jack In)

2. Plug Midi Out of the Midi Solution Box to Midi In of Triton

3. Plug Midi Thru of Triton to Midi In of Fantom.

4. Plug Midi Out of either Triton or Fantom to Midi In of Midi Solution Box.
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Post by unleashed_project »

ok that is good thanks alot, but i was also wondering something else , i have a arabic scale converter, Kelfar Ak-2 box, it has two Midi Outs on it, am i able to incorparate it in the picture and use it for both keyboards and also use the breah controller. I ordered a midi solutons Midi Merger box with 2 ins and 1 out, would i need another one?

would i have to order the midi solutions midi merger with 1 out and 4 ins???
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If i have got it right you need Scales and Breath Control to both instruments at the same time.

The above means that 2 Midi Messages (one for Scale and one for Breath) should arrive to Midi Inputs of both instruments at the same time.

You defenitely need one Merger to do that because you have to merge Scale and Breath Boxes' Midi Outs to one.

In this case you wont even need AK-2's second midi out. You wont need a second Merger at all.

1. Plug AK-2's Midi Out to Midi In 1 of the Merger
2. Plug Breath's Midi Out to Midi In 2 of the Merger
3. Plug Midi Out of the Merger to Midi In of one of your instruments (let's say Extreme)
4. Plug Midi Thru of your Extreme to Fantom's Midi In.
5. Plug any free Midi Out to Breath Midi In only for Midi Power Supply purposes.

With the above you merge Scale and Breath to one Midi Out. This output is sent to the Extreme and contains Breath AND Scale midi data. Midi In of the Extreme accepts those data and at the same time it regenerates them at its MIDI THRU which is sent to the Midi In of fantom.

As you realize both instruments accept at the same time Midi Messages for Scale and Breath.

What is important for you to check is how the Kelfar's Unit microtunes one or more instruments. If your instruments support microtuning then Kelfar's device will probably microtune them by sending them System Exclusive Message. If the instruments do not support microtuning but do support Pitch Bend then Kelfar's device may microtune them again but using Pitch Bend Midi Messages this time.

In the first case you will have to check with Kelfar how many System Exclusive Messages his device may send at the same time and from which Midi Out of it. Ask him if it is possible to microtune by System Exclusive 2 or above different instruments (for example Triton and Fantom or Triton Fantom and Motif). If he replies that it is possible ask him if it is possible to do it only by one Midi Out of his device.

System Exclusive Messages can only be identified by the respective instrument. If Kelfar's unit can send more than one to one of its Midi Outs then you will have to determine Midi device numbers so as to ensure that each instrument will receive the respective System Exclusive Message so as to respond correctly to Microtuning
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