Korg M50 Joystick Assignment Question

Sanat · Post by **Sanat** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:57 am

Hey, all!!

This might seem like a noob question to everyone out there, but I couldn't find the answer anywhere. And I LOOKED!

How can you assign a function to the joystick? For example, I want to edit a sound, say, Bright Square Lead, so that when I move the joystick towards me (JS -Y), it voices a harmonic.

If I'm not clear enough, please let me know.

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:51 am

You'd have to use AMS. What exactly do you mean exactly by 'voicing a harmonic'?

-Kim.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:55 am

You can't bring out a harmonic in a standard sound. You can, however, use one oscillator in the sound for the base pitch and another for the harmonic (though I think you're limited to 2 octaves of transposition) and use the joystick to control the volume of the second oscillator via AMS. Alternately, load a combi with two similar timbres, transpose the second, and use AMS to control its volume.

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:07 am

It depends on what he means. It might be increasing the level of a second oscillator. It might mean increasing the drive. It might mean increasing the level of a parallel bandpass filter. It might mean raising the frequency of a lowpass filter. It might mean increasing the resonance. It might mean increasing the mix level of a pitch shifter effect. Or a distortion effect. Or a ringmod effect (this can be quite cool in the right context). There are so many ways of bringing out a harmonic...

-Kim.

Sanat · Post by **Sanat** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:10 pm

Thanks for the quick replies!!

I shall be more specific. I would like to be able to bring out a harmonic like that of the Liquid T Lead. How exactly would I do that?

-Sanat

Synastikki · Post by **Synastikki** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 8:42 pm

so basically you want to bring up "feedback" -style effect with the joystick...?

Sanat · Post by **Sanat** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:34 pm

Yes, that is exactly what I want. Now, how do you do it? Step by step instructions would be greatly appreciated.

Sanat

6corde1neurone · Post by **6corde1neurone** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:40 am

Sanat wrote:Thanks for the quick replies!!

I shall be more specific. I would like to be able to bring out a harmonic like that of the Liquid T Lead. How exactly would I do that?

-Sanat

It's a complex sound to recreate. In my opinion (just because I'm trying to do it right now) you should make a program for every different layer (ie 2 osc saw detuned, 1 square + 1 square transposed for the harmonics) and then use a combi.
You should assign the velocity intensity ams to js-y (in the amp modulation page) with a positive increase for the squares, and a negative for the saws.

I'm a newbie in crafting sound, hope this helps.

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:31 am

Sanat wrote:Thanks for the quick replies!!

I shall be more specific. I would like to be able to bring out a harmonic like that of the Liquid T Lead. How exactly would I do that?

-Sanat

If you want to scare yourself, take a look here:

http://www.progsounds.com/tutorials/jor ... uid-t-lead

It seems the actual Kurz program uses ten layers.

If you're just after the feedback sound, it's pretty simple. Just create a double-oscillator program. The first oscillator will be your main sound stack. You can probably get close by stacking a distorted guitar multisample (such as one from multisample 269-274, see what you like) with a nasty sawtooth multisample (there are heaps to choose from - again, see what you like).

The second oscillator will be your feedback sound. Set it to something like a triangle or sine wave, tuned 7 semitones (a perfect fifth) up. Or 19 semitones (an octave and a fifth) if that suits you better. Set it up so it's very quiet normally, but pulling the joystick makes it louder. There are many ways to do this - you can open the filter, increase the amplitube, increase the drive, etc.

Bonus points for running the whole thing into a distortion->cabinet FX chain.

-Kim.

Sanat · Post by **Sanat** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:57 am

I have scared myself, Kim. That is a lot of work for just one lead!

I think people misunderstood me when I mentioned the Liquid T Lead. I don't want to recreate the sound, I want to get the same feedback sound with my own lead. I just wanted to explain that.

Anyway, thanks a thousand gazillion Kim and Corde for the tips. I'll try them out and let you know how it goes!

-Sanat

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:07 am

If you've got your factory programs intact, check out C053, C054 and C055. They're lead guitar sounds that work in exactly this way. OSC1 is the main guitar sound and OSC2 is the feedback sound that gets louder as you pull the joystick.

-Kim.

Sanat · Post by **Sanat** » Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:13 am

It worked! I created a feedback layer to my already-made combi using a sine wave, I transposed it up by 1 octave, and I used AMS to make it so that the sound was louder and sharper when I pulled the joystick back. I also made it so that the main lead sound got softer when I pulled the joystick back.

Thanks guys so much! I couldn't have done this without your help!

-Sanat

TalkingFingers · Post by **TalkingFingers** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:46 am

Kim Lajoie wrote:If you've got your factory programs intact, check out C053, C054 and C055. They're lead guitar sounds that work in exactly this way. OSC1 is the main guitar sound and OSC2 is the feedback sound that gets louder as you pull the joystick.

-Kim.

Thanks for this, I'm new to the Korg Family. Although I knew the Krome had the capability, I was not sure how to set it up. These patches have shown me the way and saved me a lot of time.

TF