Altering Program from Combi

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Sugizo
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Altering Program from Combi

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Hi folks,

I've just had a bit of a shock while editing a combi and would appreciate someone clarifying the issue. I'll put it into perspective:

I basically took an already existing combi of mine and copied it to a new combi destination, then altered the new combi.

The default setting for knob1 was F/A Attack (filter and amp attack time I believe).

I moved knob 1 by mistake just before saving my edited combi. Alas! my piano sound turned into utter nonsense, the worst being the program itself had changed and with it all my other combis that use that program. It turned into horror when I realised the F/A of ALL the programs in my combi had changed.

I am assuming I cannot re-establish my original F/A values without knowing what they were beforehand (they were already edited presets and I don't have a backup for them).

So I guess what I really need to know at this stage is

a) do controls in combis address all programs or does e.g. changing attack with knob 1 in the combi only affect programs with attack assigned to knob 1?

B) if Program A has an F/A value of 75 and Program B has an F/A value of 25 and I place the Combi knob at 12 o'clock, do they both turn into an F/A value of 50?

Thank you very much experts
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Post by X-Trade »

I'm sorry but it must be a completely 'imagined' issue.
Turning the knobs can not actually change the sound. They work for performance only and their effect is not stored when the program is written.

Furthermore in combi mode it is completely not possible to overwrite programs without going through each one individually in program mode and altering their settings in the edit pages, not just from the knobs.

The only way an alteration could be made in program mode from the knobs is if you are running a MIDI setup where the controller changes from program mode can be looped back and reach the keyboard again. Even there, the changes could not affect Combi mode.

Also the 12'o'clock position of the knobs in the A controller mode, relates to the original program parameter value. In B mode however it overrides the parameter - the results are still not saved on Write though.
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Post by Sugizo »

You are right X-trade, I cannot reproduce what happened last night, something I didn't try then just in case. I'm glad things are still the way I thought they were beforehand because otherwise it would have been a dangerous thing to alter programs from combis. In any case, I cannot say it was an imagined issue as not only the piano but also my strings had their attack time totally altered.

Anyhow, happy days, cheers man
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