Cast a Vote - Should KORG release past keyboards as VSTi's.

[Sharp]

Hi all.
I'm posting this in the latest news section just to grab more attention.

Should KORG release past keyboards each as a VSTi is the question.

As in one VSTi each for the following keyboards.
Triton Extreme, Trinity, 01W, Prophecy, Z1 and so on.....

So cast your vote and if you would like to add a comment that would be great. Consider this free market research for KORG and something I hope they might consider. They have not asked me to post this, I'm doing this purely because I personally feel that this is a no brainier and that they should do this. I'm hoping others feel the same and maybe KORG see this and see the need to develop more VSTi's.

Regards
Sharp.

PS.... needless to say my choice is +3.
I think it's a fantastic idea and I would actually be very disappointed if KORG did not feel the same way about this. I think it would be a monster seller that would draw huge profit. Please no iLok or Syncrosoft though. KORG User registration activation is fine as it will allow people with Muse Receptor, V-Machine and Lionstracs keyboards to run them.

[Jan1]

YES, OF COURSE Korg should continue augmenting their legacy collection.

So far they have done a superb job.
I wish the other companies would follow Korg's example.

[Synastikki]

well if they would work as standalone so they would be as easy to use as hardware-keyboards... kind of like NI Kore style... especially for live use it would be totally cool...

[Timo]

I think they should, so long as any such keyboard has been discontinued for five years or so.

I'd love to see what others could do with the Moss of Z1, etc.

It would essentially bring whole new life to those models and sounds, and the community would increase and be strengthened I feel, injecting a greater buzz around classic Korg stuff.

[milkojnr]

I don't believe they should. It would not commercially viable. Plus if you seriously look at the number of people who would purchase it and not just download the crack version, it would be cheaper for the users to find the real things in eBay.

[McHale]

What they did with the digital and analog collections was great. I believe they have room for vol 2. for each. I'm not sure of the logistics of the ROMPLERS like the Extreme but they had a decent FM synth (DS-8), the DW-8000, etc that used minimal ROM.

To comment on the crack comment above, I agree that people pirating the software is bad for the company and the product, but sometimes people have to crack it so we can actually use it. I didn't buy either the analog or digital collection because they require a dongle. My plan on using them is with the V-Machine (which does not support the dongle). Dongles suck.

[Ahnyxrik]

I would wish for the M.O.S.S. Vsti w/ Prophecy & Z1 modes you could tweak with midi controllers, etc. That would ROCK! AND could load my .exl & .syx files of all of my old Prophecy & Z1 programs!

[McHale]

I'm 99.99% sure that MOSS in any form, especially a VSTi, isn't going to happen from Korg. Korg has nobody familiar with it at this point and MOSS in general has been a dead technology for a long time.

Back on topic...

I still think the next 2 things Korg should release is:

1. a kick ass controller (at a competitive price) with a joystick, a ton of sliders, knobs, and buttons possibly with the ability to load VSTi's.

2. But more importantly, I think Korg should release a synth with their own VSTi's pre-loaded (PolySix, M1, MS20, etc - the entire legacy collection plus the stuff they left out) - basically anything that didn't rely on samples. And since they proved that analog filters are cheap to include in gear, include real analog filters along with the software based emulated filters. I would JUMP on this in a second.

[X-Trade]

And since they proved that analog filters are cheap to include in gear, include real analog filters along with the software based emulated filters.

I think the problem with real analog filters in gear digital is where they appear in the signal chain. If you need to route back into IFX or though other parts of the system afterwards, you need a DAC and an ADC for every voice.

I personally would quite like to see keyboards with a 'master' analog stereo filter that allows you to sweep the whole keyboard, at least. But I'm not sure about the technicalities about actually including polyphonic analog filters in digital synths. Hopefully Korg is thinking about making a fully analog synth like some other manufacturers have. Perhaps an analog 'microKorg', seen as that was based on the MS series analog character anyway.

I also think software filters, and software in general has come a long way. I think the filters on the KLC-AE are pretty neat for what they are.


On the general topic though, I definitely agree and firmly believe that Korg should continue to develop software plugins. Hopefully from their previous 'Legacy Collection' instruments they will have realised how much people do like to see virtualised equivalents to their old or rare gear, and the massive convenience it offers.

[McHale]

Just wanted to update this thread without editing my original post and say that since this thread started, I got interested in the Legacy Edition (Digital and Analog) again. It turns out that a year ago Korg did away with the dongles. Time to start price shopping and see if I can find someone with it in stock. I want one of those mini MS-20 controllers...

-Mc

[Aciphecs]

I want one of those mini MS-20 controllers...

-Mc

Ebay my friend! I just saw one new-in-box with unregistered software. Check it!

[McHale]

Ebay my friend! I just saw one new-in-box with unregistered software. Check it!

I just missed a mini MS-20 controller on Craigslist that was up for $60 OBO.

[shrike]

Definite YES.
I would go for Trinity and Triton VST in a heart beat.

[Ahnyxrik]

I'm 99.99% sure that MOSS in any form, especially a VSTi, isn't going to happen from Korg. Korg has nobody familiar with it at this point and MOSS in general has been a dead technology for a long time.

Back on topic...

Now if that is not RUDE I don't know what is.....
The topic is "What we wish KORG would release as a VSTi..."
The new RADIAS tech is AWESOME! But M.O.S.S. is AWESOME too!
I've HAD the RADIAS & R3- I liked it alot but was NOT IMPRESSED! I sold that s**t FAST! But I still think about the Z1 & Prophecy BECAUSE they had TONS MORE DIMENSION the the MMT ever did (-IMHO)
To this day I think about what the M.O.S.S. has done for my sound and as a sound designer, they would be SMART to think about the technologies M.O.S.S. can do for the music industry-NOT TO SNOB ABOUT IT!
--should I be asking Yamaha? Should I since they had the rights to the tech/Physical modeling advances? Is Yamaha the better choice for the future?? I have been loyal for decades with KORG now but if I have the likes is McHale here I would be better off using technology people can respect for sound quality and not for "what is not in at the time"....
or is so-called " a dead technology for a long time "- I was in a music store & they had a TRINITY PRO w/SOLO-Tri Built in & I wanted it sooo much... FOR THE M.O.S.S. Factor- anyone else LOVE M.O.S.S. as much as me? LET's HEAR IT PEOPLE!!!!!! Stand UP for what M.O.S.S. did for you!

[McHale]

You're right. You don't know what rude is.

I'm not ripping on MOSS. I'm pointing out that MOSS was developed under license of physical modeling patents by Sondius XG, who are/were owned by Stanford University and by Yamaha. Those patents still belong to Sondius, Stanford, Yamaha, whoever, but not by Korg. Also, Korg no longer is licensing the technology and licenses are no longer being issued. Now, tack on that MOSS had minimal resources allocated to it's development when Korg was licensing it and those resources are no longer available to KORG - AND NEVER WILL BE. And I'm pretty sure that when Korg was licensing this that was when they were partly owned by who? YAMAHA (which made the license possible). FYI, Yamaha doesn't own Korg anymore.

I'm not being rude, you and others are being thick. It is nearly IMPOSSIBLE for Korg to bring back MOSS modeling technology back in any capacity. They can't even remanufacture MOSS cards if there was a market for it because of the licensing expiring. I would suggest you do some research on MOSS and see who owns it, licenses it, and what's been done with it lately.