Could somebody explain the paragraph on page 119 of the PA800 manual headed "Chosing a Key/Chord". It says :
"You can also enter a chord progression. This is done with the lowest MIDI octave (C-1 ~ B-1). Chord types are inserted by using velocity, as shown in the following table"
There then follows a table of velocity values against different chord types with the velocity values ranging from 1 to 24. I simply do not understand what it means when it says "using velocity", how do I do this when recording a guitar track because the lowest octave in this mode just plays different strum patterns, how do I enter these velocity values. Could somebody please enlighten me.
Thanks in advance
Guitar mode
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Re: Guitar mode
Yes, I use that all the time when I make my own homemade styles. I used the keyboard to program the guitar tracks a few times, but it was really hard. So now, I also do the guitar tracks from external sequencers.PeterA wrote:Could somebody explain the paragraph on page 119 of the PA800 manual headed "Chosing a Key/Chord". It says :
"You can also enter a chord progression. This is done with the lowest MIDI octave (C-1 ~ B-1). Chord types are inserted by using velocity, as shown in the following table"
There then follows a table of velocity values against different chord types with the velocity values ranging from 1 to 24. I simply do not understand what it means when it says "using velocity", how do I do this when recording a guitar track because the lowest octave in this mode just plays different strum patterns, how do I enter these velocity values. Could somebody please enlighten me.
Thanks in advance
Working with Guitar mode is little bit different. You can't draw notes to make a chord sound like Am, or F#7..or what have you...You would use Velocity to define the type of chord:
C1-B1 are basically the lowest range of the keyboard...No sound in guitar mode has been assigned to those keys. So you use those to say what chord letter you want the keyboard to play...such as C, D, F...Then, you use the velocity layer for that note to define the type of the chord. For example, velocity of 1 equals major....8 is minor if I remember correctly..there's a table of chords somewhere in the guitar mode section of the manual. You better print that and put it on your desk..it comes handy!
Guitar Mode
Thanks very much for your prompt reply.
Sorry I am still unclear about how to do this. Do I need to transpose the keyboard down using the octave button to access the C1 ~ B1 octave and do I enter velocity by being in the "Overdub step recording" mode and setting the velocity for each chord I enter from the C1 ~ B1 octave range
The manual doesn't really explain this very well, would I be asking to much if you could explain in a step by step fashion what I have to do, starting from the guitar mode page (the one with the guitar fret board at the bottom). I have tried what I explained above but get no sound whatsoever when I play it back.
Thanks in advance
PeterA
Sorry I am still unclear about how to do this. Do I need to transpose the keyboard down using the octave button to access the C1 ~ B1 octave and do I enter velocity by being in the "Overdub step recording" mode and setting the velocity for each chord I enter from the C1 ~ B1 octave range
The manual doesn't really explain this very well, would I be asking to much if you could explain in a step by step fashion what I have to do, starting from the guitar mode page (the one with the guitar fret board at the bottom). I have tried what I explained above but get no sound whatsoever when I play it back.
Thanks in advance
PeterA
PA800 user
Re: Guitar Mode
Hi Peter,PeterA wrote:Thanks very much for your prompt reply.
Sorry I am still unclear about how to do this. Do I need to transpose the keyboard down using the octave button to access the C1 ~ B1 octave and do I enter velocity by being in the "Overdub step recording" mode and setting the velocity for each chord I enter from the C1 ~ B1 octave range
The manual doesn't really explain this very well, would I be asking to much if you could explain in a step by step fashion what I have to do, starting from the guitar mode page (the one with the guitar fret board at the bottom). I have tried what I explained above but get no sound whatsoever when I play it back.
Thanks in advance
PeterA
If you're trying to use the keyboard to create your guitar track, and NOT an external sequencer, then either, you transpose the keyboard to enter those notes, or, you would just enter the note and then get the note transposed down to that Octave. You have no idea how much easier it is to do this in an external sequencer. Once you entered the desired note (A , B , C...) then, you have to set the proper velocity for that particular chord. For example, if you wanted to make a C major chord, then, you would first enter a C1 note, and then set its velocity to 1.
This has nothing to do with the rhythm structure/strums..fret noise.etc...this is only for keyboard to know what chord to play. Feel free to ask question, if this confused you even more!
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Re: Guitar Mode
Hi Peter,
in style record,
press menu button
"Styletrack Controls" & make sure you have set the track to Gtr. mode.
You should only need to tranpose down 1 octave if you need lowest
A,Bb,or B strums.
Easiest way I've found to to add the velocity notes for chord changes ,
( if you're not using an external sequencer,) is to do it in Event List Edit.
ie press menu,
Event edit,
"Insert" the notes as required.
in style record,
press menu button
"Styletrack Controls" & make sure you have set the track to Gtr. mode.
You should only need to tranpose down 1 octave if you need lowest
A,Bb,or B strums.
Easiest way I've found to to add the velocity notes for chord changes ,
( if you're not using an external sequencer,) is to do it in Event List Edit.
ie press menu,
Event edit,
"Insert" the notes as required.
PeterA wrote:Thanks very much for your prompt reply.
Sorry I am still unclear about how to do this. Do I need to transpose the keyboard down using the octave button to access the C1 ~ B1 octave and do I enter velocity by being in the "Overdub step recording" mode and setting the velocity for each chord I enter from the C1 ~ B1 octave range
The manual doesn't really explain this very well, would I be asking to much if you could explain in a step by step fashion what I have to do, starting from the guitar mode page (the one with the guitar fret board at the bottom). I have tried what I explained above but get no sound whatsoever when I play it back.
Thanks in advance
PeterA
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Rikki
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