News from Denmark

Abaek · Post by **Abaek** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:07 am

I have been visiting this forum regularly since they announced the Kronos. I'm eagerly awaiting my Kronos 61. Yesterday 4Sound, possibly Denmarks biggest chain of musicstores, announced prices to be:

K61: 21999 DKR / 2950 € / 4260 $
K73: 25999 DKR / 3485 € / 5035 $
K88: 26999 DKR / 3620 € / 5230 $

I called and asked about how official these prices were, and was told "very official" He also told me delivery date would be 1st of July.

I'm actually pleasently surprised by these prices...

Just wanted to share the news.

RKfan · Post by **RKfan** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:05 am

Wow - a 42% markup above the US prices - you must be absolutely and very officially thrilled with these prices.

I wonder if there will be a lot of Danes that making overseas orders.

Sorry for making such negative remarks - but I think (my personal belief) that this is probably 20% too high and this will make some purchasers think about importing - US sales will be great - EU ones will be lousy. So if I lived in Denmark I would be looking for a very offial 20-25% discount.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:18 am

Even with 20% VAT and shipping the price will be more like E 2500 or E 2600 when imported from the US. Warranty might be an issue tough (another thread is about that).

But even if the price difference would be E 400, you probably can send it to the US twice for repair, and I never had any (major) problems on any of my Korgs (I have 4).

The 20-25% 'over expensiveness' is now just for the European distributors ... easy money for sliding a box with a Kronos inside.

GiantSonicRobot · Post by **GiantSonicRobot** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:51 am

michelkeijzers wrote:Even with 20% VAT and shipping the price will be more like E 2500 or E 2600 when imported from the US. Warranty might be an issue tough (another thread is about that).

Denmark has a VAT of 25%, which is among the highest in all of Europe.

So if you take that €2950,- and re-calculate a price for e.g. Germany (19% VAT), you end up with just €2808,40.

Glad I don't live in Denmark.

panrixx · Post by **panrixx** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:59 am

RKfan wrote:Wow - a 42% markup above the US prices - you must be absolutely and very officially thrilled with these prices.

I wonder if there will be a lot of Danes that making overseas orders.

Sorry for making such negative remarks - but I think (my personal belief) that this is probably 20% too high and this will make some purchasers think about importing - US sales will be great - EU ones will be lousy. So if I lived in Denmark I would be looking for a very offial 20-25% discount.

I have bought a few guitars direct from the USA, so I know the uplift cost of importing very well.

First you have to add the cost of shipping from the USA to (say) the UK - I doubt you'll get that for free.

Then you add 5% import duty (UK) to the combined cost of the Konos and shipping charge.

Then you add 20% VAT (UK) to the total amount from the steps above.

Finally, you often have to pay the courier a fee for dealing with the import paperwork - around £10 -£15. Oh, and don't forget the exchange rate fee.

So, uplift on the US Kronos price is around 37%

Please feel free to correct any assumptions I made that you feel are wrong.

Abaek · Post by **Abaek** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:11 pm

Hehe... Wow, I guess us Danes are just used to these grotesque prices.

I can only compare with other purchases i've made.

Back in the day the Triton 61 was WAY more expensive than the Kronos is now.

And in comparison the Motif XF6 currently sells for: 18999 DKR / 2550 € / 3680 $

orpheus2006 · Post by **orpheus2006** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:35 pm

You can import a Kronos 61 from the US for less than 2300€ even in Denmark.
See experience report posted by operaman.
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... c&start=30

robinkle · Post by **robinkle** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:21 pm

A local dealer here in Norway said the prices are high because of the demand for the Keyboard.

Hedegaard · Post by **Hedegaard** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:51 pm

GiantSonicRobot wrote:Glad I don't live in Denmark.

Our Danish salary compensates for the other things

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:54 pm

robinkle wrote:A local dealer here in Norway said the prices are high because of the demand for the Keyboard.

That's ridiculous. It's as if they're saying "We want to rip you guys off BECAUSE the demand for this instrument is so high!".

CfNorENa · Post by **CfNorENa** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:57 pm

Abaek wrote:I'm actually pleasently surprised by these prices....

So I'm guessing you're a very happy and well adjusted person, one who always sees the glass as half full!

Only way to live, I say...

robinkle · Post by **robinkle** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:39 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
robinkle wrote:A local dealer here in Norway said the prices are high because of the demand for the Keyboard.
That's ridiculous. It's as if they're saying "We want to rip you guys off BECAUSE the demand for this instrument is so high!".

Yes and it makes me look for alternatives.

brimoore · Post by **brimoore** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:50 pm

I was just in Norway (Molde) for work - of course I didn't have time to look for a local music shop. I would have loved to find a pawn shop with a Kronos in it for 500 KR. I would have smuggled that baby all the way back to Seattle in my pants

And I'm not the kind of guy that usually does stuff like that!

robinkle · Post by **robinkle** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:59 pm

brimoore wrote:I was just in Norway (Molde) for work - of course I didn't have time to look for a local music shop. I would have loved to find a pawn shop with a Kronos in it for 500 KR. I would have smuggled that baby all the way back to Seattle in my pants And I'm not the kind of guy that usually does stuff like that!

No shops here got it unless it's imported. But it's not too long before it becomes available though.

RKfan · Post by **RKfan** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:52 pm

robinkle wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:
robinkle wrote:A local dealer here in Norway said the prices are high because of the demand for the Keyboard.
That's ridiculous. It's as if they're saying "We want to rip you guys off BECAUSE the demand for this instrument is so high!".
Yes and it makes me look for alternatives.

You could tell him you are going to import since demand in the States is so low that the price is much more reasonable.

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