Problem playing Indian Dholak / Tabla Styles and samples

irfanmayani · Post by **irfanmayani** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:42 am

I recently bought an indian SET containing styles with Dholak and Tabla and various samples and drum kits.

The problem is that the styles and sounds do not sound wel...infact the samples are corrupted or something is wrong that make the keyboard play different 'noises ' or ' erronous sounds ' instead of the original sounds that the style is supposed to play.

Even the drum kits are not ok , when you play the drum kit , instead of sounds of tabla and dholak or any other percussion , there are noisy sounds.

I have the latest OS and musical resourses installed. Even the SET file installed dint mention any error , and was installed properly.

I remember using the same samples on the keyboard when i had the original OS installed ( the first version that came in the CD with the pa800) . ....Can any one help me figure out what could be the problem.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:38 am

Your problem is that the RAM is gone, i am guessing that based on your other post.
OS wont fix that, you need to bring it to a Korg repair center and going back to OS1
wont help you nor its a good idea.

wahidw · Post by **wahidw** » Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:11 pm

I had the same problem send it to korg they re install os for me and charge me $60 it was ok for os drum kit not for user drum kit I contact this website http://www.musitronics.de at GERMANY very nice people and I bought 256MB ram instead of 64MB now I don't have any problem no noise and 256mb of ram.
Thanks

irfanmayani · Post by **irfanmayani** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:04 am

Guys thanks for the replies.
unfortunately i live in a country whr thr is no authorized dealer of korg. I actually imported this keyboard form abroad.

So anyone can tell me if there is a possibility that i buy the RAM my self and fix it

Is is the same kind of RAM used in Computers

wahidw · Post by **wahidw** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:15 pm

I told you to go to this website and buy it
http://www.musitronics.de.

moebrand · Post by **moebrand** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:29 am

Hi Wahid,
The website does not have anything for pa800, I couldn't find Pa800 on the products list of the website.

wahidw · Post by **wahidw** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:49 pm

moebrand wrote:Hi Wahid,
The website does not have anything for pa800, I couldn't find Pa800 on the products list of the website.

you have to contact them by there phone #
or email and ask for Korg pa800 256mb ram
and pay them by paypal and they will send you.

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:05 pm

Hi guys,

Memory upgrade on the Pa800 is not a "plug and go" solution like it is on the Pa2x and Pa3x. The Korg Pa800 design is a fixed 64 MB RAM, the chips are soldered onto the main processor board, and it is also true that there have been many RAM failures on the Pa800 that required a new motherboard to be fitted by a repair center.

Musitronics modify the design of the processor board to provide a RAM expansion from 64 MB to either 128 MB or 256 MB. They desolder the old memory chips and they solder some new chips in place, as well as adding some additional circuitry to decode additional address lines from the processor. I expect that Musitronics would need the keyboard in their hands to do the upgrade. It's too difficult for people to dismantle the Pa800 and do the work themselves.

Regards,
Rob

irfanmayani · Post by **irfanmayani** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:40 am

So basically it means , that there is no way i can get this problem fixed here as my country does not have any official repair centre for korg

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:38 pm

irfanmayani wrote:So basically it means , that there is no way i can get this problem fixed here as my country does not have any official repair centre for korg

Hi irfanmayani,

Since it was an unofficial import then I believe you will not get official support from Korg. Their policy seems to be to only provide support via regional distributors and there is no global support in place to cover the exceptions such as your case. PLEASE anyone from Korg reading this, step in and rescue your customer in distress before I provide him with a non-Korg solution to his dilemma ....

One "non-Korg" option that has been mentioned several times on this thread, would be for you to telephone Musitronics in Germany, tell them about the problem with broken RAM and ask them if you can send the keyboard to them to have it upgraded to 256 MB RAM as well as fixing the problem. The postal costs and the upgrade costs might be more than the keyboard is worth, however. But you should at least get a quotation so you are better able to evaluate the next option I will suggest.

The alternative "non-Korg" option is to purchase a Groove X-R sampling and plug-in hosting module from us, and use your Pa800 as a master controller keyboard and use the Groove X-R as a very much expanded sound engine for styles and solo sounds. You would just connect the two units together using a MIDI-USB cable plugged into the "Host" port on your Pa800 and then you would use either of the stereo output sockets from the Groove X-R as your sound output to a separate amplifier/ loudspeaker system. We provide the equivalent of 1,000 Gigabytes sound capacity as opposed to 64 Mbytes sound capacity on the Pa800.

We will provide you with direct warranty support and will provide a repair service for the Groove X-R to you if ever it needs repair. We also issue regular software updates that are free, normally 4 updates per year. A further advantage is that the Groove X-R does take a standard PC-based internal motherboard, processor and RAM, so parts can be purchased almost anywhere and you are not locked into to us as a single source supplier for spare parts. See our web site http://corcyraglobal.com for details. You can download the specification sheet from the Home page, and you can join our user forum if you register on the User Forum part of the web site.

I make the same offer to all Pa800 and Pa2x customers. Do not throw away your Korg keyboards, even if the sound output and sampling system on those keyboards fails. Instead MIDI up your Korg keyboard to a Groove X-R "Korg Pa Keyboard Expander" and you will be amazed by the 1 Terabyte sound expansion our solution gives you, and may you live long and prosper

There are video films, and sound demonstrations on the "Demonstration" section of our web site, http://corcyraglobal.com. The units will be shipping soon!

Best regards,
Rob

wahidw · Post by **wahidw** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:18 pm

He dose not need to send his keyboard to GERMANY they will send the RAM to him by mail with instruction how to replace,
you don't need to do any soldering RAM is ready just take the old one out and put the new one in.
And he will send you update for korg OS to have 16 page of USER DK
and remember today is not 1950"s days if you try you can do everything
if it works for me then it should work for every buddy.
And it is a "plug and go" solution.

$\:D/$

Rob Sherratt · Post by **Rob Sherratt** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:20 pm

wahidw wrote:He dose not need to send his keyboard to GERMANY they will send the RAM to him by mail with instruction how to replace,
you don't need to do any soldering RAM is ready just take the old one out and put the new one in.
And he will send you update for korg OS to have 16 page of USER DK
and remember today is not 1950"s days if you try you can do everything
if it works for me then it should work for every buddy.
And it is "plug and go" solution. $\:D/$

As I understand it, there are several versions of the Pa800. Only the Pa800ex allows plug in 256 MB RAM as standard. The Original Pa800 was limited to fixed 64 MB RAM and the devices were soldered to one of the main circuit boards. A number of solder modifications had to be made to expand it to 256 MB RAM.

Perhaps someone with an original Pa800 could kindly publish a photo of the RAM chips soldered to the relevant PCB ?

Thanks,
Rob

irfanmayani · Post by **irfanmayani** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:23 am

This is so diheartening.. i mean you buy a 2500 US dollar keyboard and still you have to worry about these things...

I dont know what to do , I am going to UAE for 3-4 days , will contact a distributor there and see if they can fix the RAM or provide me a RAM so that i can fix it myself ( if thats possible )

The Groove thing really sounds great , will look into it , but i am a semi-professional musician , and only play it for fun and some good time at home after work . So i dont want to spend much more on any new equipment.

All i need is for the pa800 to work fine with the styles and samples .
Lets see if i get a reply from Korg ( UAE ) and then may be i can get it fixed

thank you all for the replies

irfanmayani · Post by **irfanmayani** » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:31 am

I have contacted musitronics.de
Lets see what thy can do .

I wonder if their RAM is applicable to all pa800 versions
and is easily installable

Regards
Irfan

Atash_sozan · Post by **Atash_sozan** » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:16 pm

Hi Irfan Bhai!
I have the original Pa800 and had the same problem last year and I talked with musitronics.de about my problem. they sent the 256MB RAM with some instructions how to install. it was easy as Wahid did.
Now I have 256MB RAM with 16 pages for dk.

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