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[dregsor]

I'm gutted for Dregsor. Seriously man .

I'll let you know how mine is when it comes. If it's perfect maybe it will put some faith back and maybe you should try again.
If it isn't perfect I will keep going until I get a good one because I simply love the Kronos.

Regards

Lester

Thanks brother. This whole months long episode has been grizzly. I really hope your 73 is perfect. I'll stop by sometime and see how it's going.

Sorry if I ruffled any feathers. Not my intent. Just wanted to get my experience on the record for those who helped. And FWIW I've been playing keyboards and synths for 4 decades. So I didn't just fall off the boat.

[PinkFloydDudi]

If your critique of the Kronos depends upon a lie...

You did not read carefully.
My criticism is based on facts. You have to open your eyes and read this forum. The facts that you do not want to see.
"There's none so deaf as those who will not hear"

Ok, lets clarify who is right and who is lying in this situation then.


Your exact statement:
"Almost every day we see there is a new case of poor quality control in the Korg"

So the burden of proof is on you to back up your statement. The first serial number post was June 8th. It is nearly october 8th...meaning there has been 4 months.
You said "almost every day"...so lets say that "almost" is maybe 90%? If you disagree with that, let me know.

4 months x 30 days per month = 120 days.
120 days x 90% for "almost" = 108 days.

Show me 108 NEW problems with quality... Inability to do so, means you just made up your complaint and are literally lying to make the kronos look bad on its own forums.

You want to talk facts - its time you learn to start backing them up.

[Korgstream]

PinkFloydDudi, thinking is sometimes useful!
If you think a little, then you will see that when I speak, I express my personal opinion, right?
Then, if you think a little bit again, you'll see when I came to the forum, you'll see that I came September 24.
Then, if you take a calculator and count how many defects have been reported since 24 September, you're surprised to find that they appear almost every day.
Need any further explanation or you admit that you acted rude in first posts, man?

[Zeroesque]

PinkFloydDudi, thinking is sometimes useful!
If you think a little, then you will see that when I speak, I express my personal opinion, right?
Then, if you think a little bit again, you'll see when I came to the forum, you'll see that I came September 24.
Then, if you take a calculator and count how many defects have been reported since 24 September, you're surprised to find that they appear almost every day.
Need any further explanation or you admit that you acted rude, man?

And I wear the same exact underwear everyday without washing them...if we only look at today.

Thinking is sometimes useful.

[Korgstream]

PinkFloydDudi, thinking is sometimes useful!
If you think a little, then you will see that when I speak, I express my personal opinion, right?
Then, if you think a little bit again, you'll see when I came to the forum, you'll see that I came September 24.
Then, if you take a calculator and count how many defects have been reported since 24 September, you're surprised to find that they appear almost every day.
Need any further explanation or you admit that you acted rude, man?

And I wear the same exact underwear everyday without washing them...if we only look at today.

Thinking is sometimes useful.

No need to write the examples that are not relevant to the subject. Dudi knows what I mean. He started being rude and got an answer.

[outjet]

We can certainly all agree that customers have demonstrated problems of varying severity with the Kronos.

Some are cosmetic issues, but the problems dregsor has detailed, such as combis locking up while playing, and the issue both of us are experiencing with notes cutting off are things that are too risky to make our individual keyboards safe to gig with.

If yours works well, I am happy for you and hopeful that my next one works well too, but these issues do raise a quality control issue.

My dealer has shipped me a new board to arrive tomorrow. I'm excited to test it out and give Korg another try. Hopefully from a new lot of serial numbers, if it matters.

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My Kronos 88 failing at playing music (with second video addition) http://4g.outjet.com/kronoskeyfail.html

[runningman67]

Hi Outjet

Let us know how your 2nd K73 is.

Thanks .

[madbeatzyo111]

After some serious soul searching over the weekend I've decided to return the Kronos 73 I received last week.

I would wait a few months and then try again; hopefully the issue will be resolved by then. As we all know, Korg monitors these forums and as a result must be well aware of the problem.

[Korgstream]

I would wait a few months and then try again; hopefully the issue will be resolved by then. As we all know, Korg monitors these forums and as a result must be well aware of the problem.

+1

[dregsor]

Some are cosmetic issues, but the problems dregsor has detailed, such as combis locking up while playing, and the issue both of us are experiencing with notes cutting off are things that are too risky to make our individual keyboards safe to gig with.

If yours works well, I am happy for you and hopeful that my next one works well too, but these issues do raise a quality control issue.

Absolutely. Even if my 73 was perfect, I would still be concerned about how it would stand the test of time. A year from now things will be much clearer.

[burningbusch]

I've had combis lock up twice while playing. Every note locked on sustain. The second time this happened I had to reboot the unit in order to recover. This might well be fixed in the new OS but who knows.

I wonder if this could be related to a faulty or intermittent sustain pedal. I've been using the Kronos extensively for months and have never encountered this. I have had situations where I did get all notes sustaining but it was ALWAYS related to my sustain pedal being in the wrong polarity setting at startup (user error).

Busch.

[dregsor]

After some serious soul searching over the weekend I've decided to return the Kronos 73 I received last week.

I would wait a few months and then try again; hopefully the issue will be resolved by then. As we all know, Korg monitors these forums and as a result must be well aware of the problem.

That's the plan. Although I'll give it a little longer than that. Plus I'll most likely get a 61 instead of a 73 and control it with a separate 76/88 key controller which I'm searching for right now. There is a fair amount of quality used keyboards around right now so that's good.

[dregsor]

I've had combis lock up twice while playing. Every note locked on sustain. The second time this happened I had to reboot the unit in order to recover. This might well be fixed in the new OS but who knows.

I wonder if this could be related to a faulty or intermittent sustain pedal. I've been using the Kronos extensively for months and have never encountered this. I have had situations where I did get all notes sustaining but it was ALWAYS related to my sustain pedal being in the wrong polarity setting at startup (user error).

Busch.

Hi Busch!

Nice to hear from you. I'm glad you chimed in. I wasn't using the pedal when playing the combis in question. And it worked fine the rest of the time but nothing is impossible I guess. I've returned the keyboard or I could have unplugged the pedal and seen if I could reproduce the error. But it only happened twice and I could not reproduce it in the last couple of days I had the keyboard so I think it was something intermittent. The guys at Sweetwater think I just got a lemon. Unlucky.

I know your on top of this stuff so if you hear anything else on this subject I'd appreciate a heads up.

[madbeatzyo111]

Plus I'll most likely get a 61 instead of a 73 and control it with a separate 76/88 key controller which I'm searching for right now.

That's what I'm planning to do as well. I really wanted to like the 88 since I hate stacking up keyboards, but I think I can live with it. Plus I get the benefit of having both key actions available and of course the additional split possibilities that come with that.

But I will definitely wait until there's more inventory and perhaps a price drop (mid next year I'm guessing). By that time Korg should have worked out the quality issues as well, hopefully.

[outjet]

I too considered the sustain or volume controller could be a factor, but I unplugged both and was still able to reproduce the note cut off problem.