So I am thinking: what if one could create a board of knobs (POTs) wired with all of the sound editing parameters?
Now I'm not talking about circuit bending, but it would be internally modifying the R3 board. Does anyone have an electrical diagram of any sort for the R3?
I say this because then one could just do all of the patch editing manually by-hand, rather than on the virtual editor. I am guessing this may not be possible as you have to use the bank knob to go through the parameters in sets of four. But maybe this could be possible with some careful planning...
Now I assume most of you are going to say not to risk it or that is sounds far-fetched, but please, if the solder-savvy are out there, speak up!
You don't really need to create such a thing. In the MIDI menu, you can assign just about all the parameters a MIDI CC number, so all you need is to hook it to something like the Behringer BCR2000. I actually use my Roland SH-201 for more knobs.
Also, you can already do all the patch editing by hand on the R3 (minus the formant motion data) without the editor, it's just a little tedious...
Re-Member wrote:You don't really need to create such a thing. In the MIDI menu, you can assign just about all the parameters a MIDI CC number, so all you need is to hook it to something like the Behringer BCR2000. I actually use my Roland SH-201 for more knobs.
Through the MIDI menu on the R3? I should cut myself off and mention that I am very new to assigning MIDI controls; which is why I suggested to get wacky with a soldering iron on my R3's EP.
But yes, the idea is that you can do all patch editing on the R3, but the tedious part is not having all the knobs accessible at once. It'd be great if you had a link to some sort of introduction to MIDI use. The manual only has so much to offer. I will be a little more specific; after assigning a CC# to each parameter, how would I get a BCR2000 to control these? Would that just be in its respective manual?
It's section 44 in the R3 menu and page 71 in the manual. The first knob scrolls through the parameters while the second shows the CC number which you can change.
I don't own the BCR2000, but from what I understand, you would need to write down all the CC numbers from the R3, then assign those numbers to the knobs on the BCR2000. I think it also has a MIDI learn function, so when you edit a specific part on the R3 manual, it might pick up the number automatically.
With my SH-201, all the CC numbers for the knobs and sliders were set in stone, so I had to hook it up to this free MIDI message program I downloaded that let me know what these control numbers were, then just I made the CC changes on the R3 parameters to match the functions of the knob and sliders on the SH-201.
Can't say I know of any all-in-one tutorial. For me, it's literally been years of trial, error, digging in synth manuals and Googling when all else fails to learn this stuff.
Well I guess I didn't really need a tutorial since you answered the questions I had. Thanks for the great help, can't wait to get back to my R3 next weekend!
The problem (at least that I experienced on the MS2000 and MicroKorg) is that you can't specify which timbre you are targeting with CCs, so they just override parameters on both. Might be possible with NRPN though.
You really couldn't even possibly do it with a soldering iron because it's not an analog synth - there are no points that you could wire up all the pots to because the existing knobs are just multipurpose on a set of DACs going into the CPU/DSP on the motherboard.
It effectively is a small purpose-built computer with a built-in MIDI controller like already mentioned.
If you actually wanted to add knobs internally, you'd have to rewrite the firmware to support some kind of multiplexing of the existing DAC channels for the knobs.
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X-Trade wrote:The problem (at least that I experienced on the MS2000 and MicroKorg) is that you can't specify which timbre you are targeting with CCs, so they just override parameters on both. Might be possible with NRPN though.
Page 65 of the manual describes how to change the MIDI Channel of the second Timbre to control each separately.
