LEVELS CONSISTENCY

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LEVELS CONSISTENCY

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Hello everyone...
I want to have all my sounds (and combis) at the same volume levels..
It seems easy but when you have to deal with many different sounds it's not that easy, at least ti is not that easy for me :) ...I mean sounds in a synth are practically,,everything ...Sounds like pianos and sounds like airy long attack pads e.g.
Also sounds in a synth differ not only in timbre tonality or frequencies but also in effect processing...
So , is there any suggestions from people who had deal with the same task???
The reason that i need to keep this level consistency as possible is because when on stage , many sound engineers complain for some sounds of mine that are either to high or too low in the mix...
I guess i am not the only one..
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Thanks in advance!
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Probably You need to tweak the programs not combis.
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What I do is saving all needed set list slots with a volume of 100 to start with, then afterwards it is easier to increase the volume for those I need more volume for.
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Post by GoranGerman »

I think the best way to put the last TXF FX channel "St.mastering Limiter" and with it the solve problems about the program and combi level. I use it on every program and combi, just pay attencion not to "overmaster" level. Start with some quiet progam. Use Threshold Level to boost up level, just don`t overburn it, and Out Ceiling to level down some progams. ;)
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Are you sending mono signal to FOH ??
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No, STEREO always... ;)
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I think that might be your problem. A Stereo signal is not what you want your audience to hear. It get VERY diluted in a live setting. It's OK for your on stage monitoring but your feed to FOH MUST be mono to get punch and clarity.
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aellison62 wrote:I think that might be your problem. A Stereo signal is not what you want your audience to hear. It get VERY diluted in a live setting. It's OK for your on stage monitoring but your feed to FOH MUST be mono to get punch and clarity.
There is a topic about stereo playing live (can't remember which one; might be in the Kronos section but it is very generic).

Stereo live play is possible, but with some limitations. I play stereo, but not fully left/right.
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Stereo certainly is possible and shouldn't be related to your inconsistent levels.

Most probably it is just a case of bad patch and combi programming (either on your or Korg's part). It can take a lot of effort and coordination to get your levels right.

Also some keyboard parts can be intentionally quiet and the sound guy might not understand this (particularly if they like many just try to mix everything as loud as possible).

Yes, you should try to make it easier for them by setting your levels for the combis you use (edit the combis for consistency, not the programs because that would just be unmanageable), but it is also a part of the sound guy's job to make sure the PA sound is consistent.
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Post by GoranGerman »

Honestly, I had no problem with the stereo image. I have programmed m3 in the studio and made combi with effect I use for equalization levels. When I set the volume level, I level it by the strongest combi section playing solo, then, all the EQ on the mixer is flat and that's it ...
It was a little harder for programing, but the result is excellent...
... and the little good thing is that, my band has its own PA...
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What I mostly do is setting all set list slot levels to 100 so I can set them harder/softer when needed.

Typically I do this in the rehearsal room because other instruments can make the different program volumes differ (normally a piano can be heard quite well in the mix, pads less good). It depends on the frequency ranges of other instruments (mainly guitars).
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Well You should know the Waldorf Blofeld. There is astronomical difference in dynamic between patches!.
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