Regarding giggastyles?

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:22 am

Regarding giggastyles:

My wife bought me the ‘gigastyles collection’ for Christmas about 3 years ago. I did not immediately understand the procedure for copying the so called “sets”from the cd to a floppy disk so that the Pa1x would recognize them. I lost interest and went on to other things.

Now I want to try again and my question is ‘How should I label them so that the Pa1x will recognize them?’ I do not want to down load them onto the Pa1x but rather copy to a floppy disk so that I can audition them via “Direct FD” I recall something about a .set. What is the relevance of a so called .set?

The instructions from gigastyles were as follows and this is where I’m having trouble. They say >

1. First you need to copy any of the *.SET directories from the cd to floppy diskette.

2. The explanation on how to load .SETs is taken from page 264 of the PA user manual.

So my question ??? Must I use my PC to type and label .set on to the Floppy disk before I try to transfer data from the gigastyles CD? And do I use an asterisk * or not?

What is the relevance of a so called ".STY" folder?

Reuben · Post by **Reuben** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 10:52 pm

First and foremost - back up your current set before doing anything. Do Disk, Utility, Full Resource back up and give it a name. Also do a Disk, Save All (tick everything) and also name it. Now you can recover if something goes wrong. Remember that the last set you load becomes the default set on boot up. To go back you will need to load the saved All set.

If these "gigastyles" have been formatted correctly for the pa1x there should be no problem just copying them to disk and loading them. The * does not get typed in it is just a symbol to take the place of the real set name eg it might be Blues.set or Classical.set. If you open up a .set folder on your computer you might see several folders such as Perform, Sound, Style.
Its best to not load the Global folder if it exits as it could upset your standard settings. If its there I would delete it before putting it on my Pa1X.
When you load a full *.set folder you have no control where the styles are put (they go to wherever the compiler of the set decided) But it you choose OPEN rather then LOAD you can put them where you decide (keep choosing OPEN until you get to the end position of the folder then Load)
The .Sty folder contains Styles and if its just these you are interested in then you can load just these. Put them in an unused User Slot.
Hope this is some help.
Best,
John

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:52 am

Hello John:

Thanks for your response. It’s hard to believe a little thing like an ‘*’ could throw me. The simplest things taken for granted can be an obstacle to those who are not familiar. Thanks for explaining that an asterisk is used here as a place setter. The devil is in the detail. In order to understand, it's nice to know the details.

Remember, I do not necessarily want to down load the styles onto the Pa1x. If possible, I would like to copy some of the .sets to a floppy disk so that I can audition them via “Direct FD”.

With that in mind, do I need to first Label the Floppy Disk designating it as containing any kind of a *.set?

Thanks ~ Charley Brown

Reuben · Post by **Reuben** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:45 am

It doesn't matter where it is on the Floppy Disc. Just "navigate" to any .sty file to try it out.
So- put the floppy in, Press the DISK button, make sure the bottom left arrow on your screen says FD (not HD), choose Load Tab then keep choosing OPEN (rather than Load) until you navigate to a file that ends in .STY (it might be in the top folder or it might be further down that what I mean about navigate to it)- now you can load it to try it out.

jim parkin · Post by **jim parkin** » Sun Nov 20, 2011 9:09 pm

Charley Brown wrote:Hello John:

Thanks for your response. It’s hard to believe a little thing like an ‘*’ could throw me. The simplest things taken for granted can be an obstacle to those who are not familiar. Thanks for explaining that an asterisk is used here as a place setter. The devil is in the detail. In order to understand, it's nice to know the details.

Remember, I do not necessarily want to down load the styles onto the Pa1x. If possible, I would like to copy some of the .sets to a floppy disk so that I can audition them via “Direct FD”.

With that in mind, do I need to first Label the Floppy Disk designating it as containing any kind of a *.set?

Thanks ~ Charley Brown

Hay everyone I think for sure you can, using a computer, put in the CD look into the files on the cd.send the files you want, to your desk top.Once they are on your desk top they wil be seperperated. put in a blank floppy,Now one at a time right clik each file, send to3.5. for as many as the floppy can hold,then load them in the pa1x ..you need to get them into the pax,then load them back out on floppys[now you have a pa1x file] that way you can load them back in as DIR.floppys,the styles need to be pa1x files,, I have never seen this gigstyle cd?where did you find it?
j/p

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:05 pm

Hello Jim:

I found the Gigastyles Collection on ebay. If you do a search for the Pa1x, it will turn up. They claim over 10,000 styles. You will find that some of them are duplicates of factory styles that you already have on the Pa1x. You will also find listed (KORG STYLES CD FOR i i30 PA PA50 PA2X PA80 PA1X PA800) which are said to be compatible. There are also conversions of styles that come from other keyboards such as Technics, Yamaha etc. EBay also lists (KORG STYLES PA 50 60 80 500 800, PA1X Pro, PA2x-Pro). I don't know if any of these violate copy/property rights?? I do know that they have been continuously listed over the past several years.

Can anyone on the forum venture a guess as to whether they do ???

karmathanever · Post by **karmathanever** » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:14 am

I don't know if any of these violate copy/property rights??

There are a thousand threads and arguments about this and I won't even attempt to go there - I think the quick answer is "no one knows". You can even take this to the level of performing with styles, MIDIs etc etc - is there a "royalty" issue?
Any time you perform a song (cover) you are subject to royalties in some form or other - varies from country to country. If you use and play styles copied from a Yamaha/Technics/Ketron etc, do you owe those manufacturers "royalties" or license fees? I see nothing in their documentation which specifically explains this.
We just have to hope that if any of our members get arrested and locked up that they will warn us about the real legalities (if they know them!!!)

Style "copying/converting" and distribution has been around for years - I go back to the i30 days when a few guys created the "USB (Universal Style Bank)" collection - awesome collection of styles for a particular keyboard all converted from many other keyboards/manufacturers - the same questions and arguments were floating around then.

The sad thing was that the Korg styles were far superior to the others (and still are IMHO)

Just play and enjoy..... (and get to know your cell mates

)

Pete

bortchy · Post by **bortchy** » Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:47 pm

but why load all set if you will later used only ,maby some style,HAwe ypu hard disk transfer the data on pa HD and than try what is ok and what no is simply

Charley Brown · Post by **Charley Brown** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:21 am

Hello bortchy: Your translation into english is a little difficult to understand, but I believe I understand the point that you are making.

I agree with you. Why bother down loading styles that you have never heard, may not like and will never use?

I found it to be more useful to put the various (unknown) styles, that I might be interested in, on to a Floppy Disk and then use the Direct Floppy Disk Button to access the styles in order to see if I like any of them before down loading any of them on to the hard disk.

bortchy · Post by **bortchy** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:29 pm

yes here my apology is true me anglish spelling and gramar is not good ,i try to writing exactly but is not so easy if i not english and my languige is not germanic but Slavistic.
Ok i have to used converted style and reading direct to dick for that need a litle more time to reading but is ok .
Throuble is when you need to hawe good wiewing .
I solved it so that i writing in word excel all performances ,song book performances,vocal procesor pach and it is good mode to evidence,and what is not in used is easy to wach what,where and ewentualy to delet from memory .
Im copyng firmvare from rom and ram .all poerating system on the other media,opening software,with that i can shanging all software and interface,inlouded with changing menus and other sighn and languiges.
Throuble come later how to inporting in rom back.
If will be succsses i report about it