MS2000 = Microkorg

shinobi · Post by **shinobi** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:19 am

Hi guys! I tried the search but got no straight answers.

Thing is I want a MS2000, but here I can find only second hand in bad shape , so I thought I get a new Microkorg as is still in production.

My question to you is if both the MS2000 and the Microkorg HAVE THE SAME, IDENTYCAL ENGINE and INSIDE FEATURES?
I do not like the small keys on the Microkorg, but I am thinking of using it as a desktop.

So again are they the same, except of course the interface, or they aren't?
(Also is there a software editor fro the Microkorg?)

Also, does anyone know how to make these sounds from this clip? :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMxV5T_TRYw

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:47 am

There are some minor differences, and some slight difference in sound character - but they are more or less the same sound.

the MS2000 has three 'modulation sequencers' which you can program using the bottom row of knobs to make changes to sounds over time. This is the biggest difference. But the microKorg has a feature that allows you to turn on/off steps of an arpeggiator pattern to make a rhythm - on the MS2000 this would be one of the things the mod sequencer can be good for.

There is also less control over the vocoder. It is the same 16-band vocoder, but the parameter adjustments you make control pairs of bands (only eight parameters), whereas on the MS2000 you have control over the 16 bands individually.

shinobi · Post by **shinobi** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:56 pm

So, it's there a difference in sound character ?
...because if there is , for me it's clear that they have no identical engines.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 5:54 pm

They are identical sound engines and have the same parameters. They effectively are the same synth.

Any differences in sound character are probably mostly down to cheaper components at AD/DA or in the analog amplifier sections.

Another thing that makes a comparison difficult though is that they have different presets mostly and the default initialised values are different. I haven't conclusively done a straight comparison yet, but they are similar enough that it won't matter for the most part.

shinobi · Post by **shinobi** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:54 pm

Ok. Can I do this with the Microkorg? :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMxV5T_TRYw

I got a Virus, Evolver and Mopho and I can't get out of them this type of dubstep sounds...so that is the reason I would buy, for this character.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:08 pm

One difference is that you can chain two MS2000 (keyboard and/or rack versions) to expand from 4 voice to 8 voice polyphony, you can't expand the polyphony on the MicroKorg.

Alan Waddington · Post by **Alan Waddington** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:22 am

shinobi wrote:Ok. Can I do this with the Microkorg? :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMxV5T_TRYw

I got a Virus, Evolver and Mopho and I can't get out of them this type of dubstep sounds...so that is the reason I would buy, for this character.

I reckon you could make the source sounds, but it would take a fair amount of patching. Those thick snarly sounds probably have small amount of frequency, amplitude & panning all patched in to thicken things up. The rising note effect can be obtained by patching the filter envelope and setting a long fall time to a low amplitude. Alternatively, if the filter envelope is being otherwise used, try a LFO set to triangle at a low frequency and then sample the rising part. One of the samples used in the video sounded like it was using Sample and Hold on one of the LFOs to give those random frequency changes. As a new microkorg owner I've found that it takes a lot of time and fiddling about to understand how particular sounds can be generated, so it might take a while to get the sound you want.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:51 pm

I think you can get those sounds relatively easily. Most of it seems to be from the unique character of the distortion and filter in these synths (MS2k/b and MK).

shinobi · Post by **shinobi** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:33 pm

Maybe u could try yourself see if it can be done and if u can and it's not too much trouble, u could send me the way u did them. Thanks a lot anyways!