sampler advice.. have exhausted KP3s capabilities

probert · Post by **probert** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:40 am

so i originally got the KP3 to be an FX processor since i really enjoyed the LPmini and looked at the sampler as something cool and extra. however ive barely used the FX and been obsessed with the sampler.. obviously having only 4 pads and other limitations i feel i need something more. i want the sampler to pretty much function exactly like the kp3, i like the BPM sampling. however i think with "one shot" sampling all gate/trigger modes should work. i need a lot more pads too. im totally new to samplers.. im looking at the MPC500 because i really like the battery powered system. thanks for any advice yall can give..

Pastor-of-Muppets · Post by **Pastor-of-Muppets** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:17 pm

hehe, I know how you feel, the KP3 sampling features got me obsessed with samplers and I went out and bought four more samplers, all because of those 4 little sample banks on the KP3!!

The MPC500 might be a good choice, it's a very different workflow to the KP3 because it's a sequencer as well, but the sequencer and extra pads give you far more flexibility for triggering samples.

The Korg ESX is a lot of fun - it doesn't have a lot of sample memory, but is very hands-on with lots of knobs and keys. The motion sequencing feature is great. Check out sauce's youtube channel for some really well-made tutorials that show some of the ESX's strengths: http://www.youtube.com/user/danieklerr

I haven't used either, but a Roland SP404SX or Korg microSampler might be worth looking at too, but it depends what you want to do with them really.

didjeko · Post by **didjeko** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:17 pm

First, you can buy a very good old hardware sampler (EMU, AKAI) for a very little amount of money. I got an EMU E5000 Ultra for 200 euros, it works well, the problem with these old machines resides in the way to communicate with a modern PC (complicated to find SCSI wires and cards, memory). But with EMU converters. Think about it, you can get at least 3 of these machines for the price of an Ipad - and they are tailored for the stage.

For modern machines, you have also the Elektron Octatrack. I have it sonce two monthes, hard to give an opinion but it's a very powerful and versatile machine (sampler + sequencer + midi sequncer, can be used to some point as a basic mixer). The OS remains quite young (one year), but Elektron takes care of the users and updates the OS regularily, and not only for some bug corections (they add new functionalities). I precise this, because in this forum, some years ago, we were posting about whish lists for the KP, but Korg did only the minimum with V2.0, in 2007, but nothing new since 2007, and I don't expect them to release a new OS.

Pastor-of-Muppets · Post by **Pastor-of-Muppets** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:54 pm

I have an old rackmount Akai CD3000XL, but probert said he wants sampling to function like the KP3 ... that pretty much rules out old rackmount samplers.

The Octatrack looks great, but is expensive and several people find the sampling workflow to be confusing (I haven't tried it, but it certainly doesn't look as simple as the KP3)

chad9477 · Post by **chad9477** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:28 pm

As didjeko and PofM say above, the Octatrack is an option if you can afford it. In reference to your OP, it would give you the equivalent of eight KP3 sample pads and the added ability to sequence their playback as well. Its effects are quite nice, so you would probably be more into them than the KP3's.

Its OS is indeed young and it's a multistep process to grab & normalize a sample, which does take some practice -- it's not as immediately intuitive as the KP3, which is why I still use my KP3 for transitions a lot despite having and loving the OT. Neither can the OT be powered by battery. But it's a far more versatile instrument -- you could easily play a full liveset with the OT alone. And Elektron is definitely a company that takes care of its user group...if you want an instrument that's worth the effort to learn and won't become obsolete, I'd grab one.

didjeko · Post by **didjeko** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:40 pm

yes, but there are no other machine that work like the KP3... The other loopers I know are the Jamman, and the Boss RC50 and RC300.

Cry UFO · Post by **Cry UFO** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 8:51 pm

I’d recommend the Roland SP404SX, it keeps it fun and it’s easy as to use

Hugo · Post by **Hugo** » Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:47 pm

Another option could be the Roland SP-606, or one of the other SP samplers, for that matter. Not quite as straightforward as the KP3, but capable of some great results

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:09 pm

i'm looking for something as immediate and fun as a kp3 as well, currently I have two of them and if only korg would put precise editing features and even a rudimentary sequencer in them they would be fantastic but alas will they? no

, instead they'll continue to come out with mediocre kaossilators ...........

you might want to look into what is possible with an ipad, soon as the next ipad comes out that's what I'll be doing myself, there should be allot out there that can compete with a kp3 on the ipad platform and it's probably the closest thing to a kp3 if not better. if you do look into it please report your findings back here.

peace

probert · Post by **probert** » Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:55 am

i got some research to do! thanks everyone..

i think there should be a new KP product.. KPSampler! i agree with the mediocre kaossilators.. KPSampler would be so fun.

djzachtyler · Post by **djzachtyler** » Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:24 pm

Cry UFO wrote:I’d recommend the Roland SP404SX, it keeps it fun and it’s easy as to use

agreed Roland or Boss ( roland's cheapey versions) SP series are pretty simple and keep things pad based.

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