Piano for live use

addy73 · Post by **addy73** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:43 pm

I am a new Kronos user who just used it live for the first time. I found my piano to be thin in the mids. I realized I had been running in stereo at home while setting up my sounds. When I got back home I connected to my stage monitor (in mono) and tried to adjust the EQ to compensate but could not get a full sound in mono.
Finally I went to the "Oasys MONO" piano and adjusted the EQ a little brighter and it seemed like it will do the trick. I'll find out at practice tomorrow.

I think the EXS pianos sound great for studio but may not fit in a live mono mix very well?

Just curious what everyone uses as their "stage piano" or if you have any suggestions to make the exs piano more present in mono.

keekma · Post by **keekma** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:52 pm

Hello,

There are several earlier threads for this subject.
But try using IFX nr 14. The enhancer/exciter. It works very well with the German Grand. Use both the eq setting and the enhancer.
It works for me in my popband.

Koen

xtatty · Post by **xtatty** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:42 pm

I think there is a better way to do this.

Watch the following video where RichF is introducing the SGX-1 engine.
At 4:40 he is talking about the "Velocity Intensity".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuAxMHxUVTM

Tweaking this parameter at negative numbers, gives you a more "discrete" sound witch is exactly what you need in a Pop-Rock band.
Try using this with the German Piano and you will be amazed!

The Exciter/Enhancer is a good way to do it too, but gives you a "thinner" sound compared to the "Velocity Intensity" tweaking.

Hope i helped!

keekma · Post by **keekma** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:10 pm

xtatty wrote:I think there is a better way to do this.

Watch the following video where RichF is introducing the SGX-1 engine.
At 4:40 he is talking about the "Velocity Intensity".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuAxMHxUVTM

Tweaking this parameter at negative numbers, gives you a more "discrete" sound witch is exactly what you need in a Pop-Rock band.
Try using this with the German Piano and you will be amazed!

The Exciter/Enhancer is a good way to do it too, but gives you a "thinner" sound compared to the "Velocity Intensity" tweaking.

Hope i helped!

I did use this parameter also. But it does not change the sound, it changes the velocitycurve. You dont have to hit hard to get in the higher velocity layers.
I dont use it anymore because you loose the dynamics of the piano a bit.

addy73 · Post by **addy73** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:41 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. I did find the other threads about this. I will definitely try these tricks.

Right now my “Oasys Mono” piano sound is tied to 3 FX which gets to be a pain when using in a combo. But I only have to do it once.

JPWC · Post by **JPWC** » Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:54 pm

Not that you haven't, but try just using the L/MONO output on the Kronos (only one mono connection).

Many times when stereo mixes are combined, phase cancellation can result, making the sound thin.