DUb sounds with the korg R3
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gregbankley
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DUb sounds with the korg R3
Anyone know any patches that I Can download onto my korg r3 that are sort of dubstep, or wobble noises? Is this possible. Thanks!
Check out my dubwobble program here.
You use the Korg Editor Librarian to load and use individual R3P programs. Just right click on a program and choose Open... from the menu. You can then see the program and modify it to your liking, if you learn how synthesis works.
You use the Korg Editor Librarian to load and use individual R3P programs. Just right click on a program and choose Open... from the menu. You can then see the program and modify it to your liking, if you learn how synthesis works.
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gregbankley
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Greg, would you mind keeping your questions to one thread, rather than creating five in a row? It's common forum courtesy.
A KP3 is an effects processor and sampler. What this means, is that it can record snippets of audio (sound), loop and truncate them, and then manipulate them with various audio effects like a delay (think of it as an echo), a decimator (it downgrades the audio quality, creating a distortion similar to a 'Game Boy') and various other functionalities.
While you can use it to loop, that's not its dedicated purpose- it's dedicated purpose is to be an effects processor with a touchable screen to change parameter values. It can work both live and with pre-recorded loops, but its sole purpose isn't to loop.
There are dedicated looping devices out there. Some of them loop audio (meaning they record the sound of your R3 and replay it in your loop), and you can also loop MIDI data with a sequencer (meaning, your sequencer will send a series of notes to your R3 for it to play in a loop, similar to if you hit the keys yourself and played a pattern over and over again).
Ableton Live has these functionalities and more. What it comes down to is ease of use. Some people like a pedal they can stomp on and have it record then repeat a few measures of audio. Other people like to have a lot of synthesizers that they send different MIDI sequences to so that every instrument is playing live. Others like to used software like Ableton, which can do both of those functions depending on how you set it up.
Music is one of those things where the same concept can be accomplished an infinite amount of ways. What it comes down to is figuring out what exactly you want to do, and what way it would be most convenient for you to do it.
I suggest you RTF Manual, and perhaps this to get a better grasp of MIDI vs. Audio:
http://korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/view ... hp?t=50987
You're welcome for the free advice,
"the dude with something up his butt" who doesn't like having his fellow community members insulted as nerds for pointing out flawed research
A KP3 is an effects processor and sampler. What this means, is that it can record snippets of audio (sound), loop and truncate them, and then manipulate them with various audio effects like a delay (think of it as an echo), a decimator (it downgrades the audio quality, creating a distortion similar to a 'Game Boy') and various other functionalities.
While you can use it to loop, that's not its dedicated purpose- it's dedicated purpose is to be an effects processor with a touchable screen to change parameter values. It can work both live and with pre-recorded loops, but its sole purpose isn't to loop.
There are dedicated looping devices out there. Some of them loop audio (meaning they record the sound of your R3 and replay it in your loop), and you can also loop MIDI data with a sequencer (meaning, your sequencer will send a series of notes to your R3 for it to play in a loop, similar to if you hit the keys yourself and played a pattern over and over again).
Ableton Live has these functionalities and more. What it comes down to is ease of use. Some people like a pedal they can stomp on and have it record then repeat a few measures of audio. Other people like to have a lot of synthesizers that they send different MIDI sequences to so that every instrument is playing live. Others like to used software like Ableton, which can do both of those functions depending on how you set it up.
Music is one of those things where the same concept can be accomplished an infinite amount of ways. What it comes down to is figuring out what exactly you want to do, and what way it would be most convenient for you to do it.
I suggest you RTF Manual, and perhaps this to get a better grasp of MIDI vs. Audio:
http://korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/view ... hp?t=50987
You're welcome for the free advice,
"the dude with something up his butt" who doesn't like having his fellow community members insulted as nerds for pointing out flawed research
Current: MS-20 Mini, Minilogue, SY77
Past: Korg R3, Volca Bass, X50, Mg Slim Phatty, Rld Gaia SH-01, Yamaha TX81Z
Have my freebie granular plug-in: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=192886
Past: Korg R3, Volca Bass, X50, Mg Slim Phatty, Rld Gaia SH-01, Yamaha TX81Z
Have my freebie granular plug-in: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=192886
The KP3 and Ableton are very different from each other. If I could only get one, I would get Ableton. But I have both, and more. There's a lite version of Ableton that comes for free with various kinds of hardware, and it's very powerful for free software. I personally own and use the KP3, KaossilatorPro, Kaossilator, SP404, SP606, iPodTouch, iPad2, FantomX6, PSR-S900, and QY100 for audio/midi looping. They all loop in different ways. The FantomX6 is one of my favorites because it does audio and midi looping that are easily punched in/out with the 16 lighted pads. Using a midi controller with lighted pads can do the same thing with Ableton Live. The X6 can do it all with or without a computer.
The KP3 is very good too, but i find that 4 loops is a bit limiting. The SP404 can do 12 loops at a time, while the 606 can do 8, but editing the loops to get rid of glitches at the loop point is a pain in the ass to do on the hardware itself. I only use them to loop tracks that I've edited in advanced or to do one-shot samples.
The KP3 is very good too, but i find that 4 loops is a bit limiting. The SP404 can do 12 loops at a time, while the 606 can do 8, but editing the loops to get rid of glitches at the loop point is a pain in the ass to do on the hardware itself. I only use them to loop tracks that I've edited in advanced or to do one-shot samples.
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gregbankley
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Bro,
You made way to big of a deal out of one letter. I'm sorry, I am a little dislexic, I typed Korg and the K just rang with the 3. You had a bad attitude right off that bat. But then you come on here and post some awesome advice, and I appreciate that. Thanks man. I still haven't decided what I am going to purchase yet, the k3 is great I just need some looping ability but my pedal isn't cutting it,
I really need something that I can use to loop sounds and have access to individual loops and their volumes, not just one big loop (like my pedal). Ableton and the kp3 are around the same price, there's a kp3 for 275 new and I may just take it, considering that I don't think my old macbook will be able to handle much of ableton anyway. I may need a new computer.
What would you guys do? Save up to by ableton live? I like the other persons idea of the free ableton lite, but then would i still need the kp3 for looping? Again, my computer may come in to hurt me.
You made way to big of a deal out of one letter. I'm sorry, I am a little dislexic, I typed Korg and the K just rang with the 3. You had a bad attitude right off that bat. But then you come on here and post some awesome advice, and I appreciate that. Thanks man. I still haven't decided what I am going to purchase yet, the k3 is great I just need some looping ability but my pedal isn't cutting it,
I really need something that I can use to loop sounds and have access to individual loops and their volumes, not just one big loop (like my pedal). Ableton and the kp3 are around the same price, there's a kp3 for 275 new and I may just take it, considering that I don't think my old macbook will be able to handle much of ableton anyway. I may need a new computer.
What would you guys do? Save up to by ableton live? I like the other persons idea of the free ableton lite, but then would i still need the kp3 for looping? Again, my computer may come in to hurt me.
Perhaps you should appreciate advice (after insulting the giver personally) rather than continue the moral crusade.
In regards to Live, there is always a think called torrenting, of which I am not advocating for in any way.
Anyways, by whatever means you get it, Live is good in that you can use it as a standard DAW (digital audio workstation) for studio recording purposes, but also in that it is a fantastic tool for managing many synths and audio loops in a live setting. It can often be more flexible than a lot of hardware options out there and can support virtual synthesizers and effect inserts.
However, the issue becomes your ability to manipulate it- using a mouse and keys is quite inconvenient, despite what some supposed 'DJs' (friends of mine who consider themselves talented by lowering the volume of one track in Traktor Pro while raising the volume of another) might say.
A controller is generally a good thing to have. Korg offers some nice ones on the cheaper side of things- http://www.korg.com/nanoseries2
I've seen quite a few people use the original nanoKontrol to make live loops using Ableton Live. Do note, the nanoKontrol is useless by itself- it simply sends command messages to a program like Ableton that you can assign to various controls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0H9u0qNgcI
In regards to Live, there is always a think called torrenting, of which I am not advocating for in any way.
Anyways, by whatever means you get it, Live is good in that you can use it as a standard DAW (digital audio workstation) for studio recording purposes, but also in that it is a fantastic tool for managing many synths and audio loops in a live setting. It can often be more flexible than a lot of hardware options out there and can support virtual synthesizers and effect inserts.
However, the issue becomes your ability to manipulate it- using a mouse and keys is quite inconvenient, despite what some supposed 'DJs' (friends of mine who consider themselves talented by lowering the volume of one track in Traktor Pro while raising the volume of another) might say.
A controller is generally a good thing to have. Korg offers some nice ones on the cheaper side of things- http://www.korg.com/nanoseries2
I've seen quite a few people use the original nanoKontrol to make live loops using Ableton Live. Do note, the nanoKontrol is useless by itself- it simply sends command messages to a program like Ableton that you can assign to various controls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0H9u0qNgcI
Current: MS-20 Mini, Minilogue, SY77
Past: Korg R3, Volca Bass, X50, Mg Slim Phatty, Rld Gaia SH-01, Yamaha TX81Z
Have my freebie granular plug-in: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=192886
Past: Korg R3, Volca Bass, X50, Mg Slim Phatty, Rld Gaia SH-01, Yamaha TX81Z
Have my freebie granular plug-in: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewt ... p?t=192886
greg,What would you guys do? Save up to by ableton live? I like the other persons idea of the free ableton lite, but then would i still need the kp3 for looping? Again, my computer may come in to hurt me.
If your computer can handle ableton, then consider getting a Novation Launchpad. Its a fantastic way to use ABleton as you won't have to spend so much time clicking about. You'll get a free copy of Ableton Lite, which is essentially the same thing as the full version except for some limitations with amount of tracks, etc. but you can also upgrade to the full version for a much much cheaper price.
The kp3 is a great investment anyway, because you'll get sampling, looping, and effects. Its a really fun device thats very useful. You can even use it as a midi controller w/ ableton.
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gregbankley
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No problem!
One more thing. I don't know if the latest version of Ableton supports this, but I remember you were able to download the full version off of the website to mess around with. Saving and a few other functionalities are disabled until you purchase or put in the serial code. Not a lot you can do over the long run, but its a great way to "preview" Ableton and see if its a match for you.
One more thing. I don't know if the latest version of Ableton supports this, but I remember you were able to download the full version off of the website to mess around with. Saving and a few other functionalities are disabled until you purchase or put in the serial code. Not a lot you can do over the long run, but its a great way to "preview" Ableton and see if its a match for you.
I used my KP3 and Kaossilator as my loopers for some time. They both have their limitations though.. (mainly the timing and loop amount)
If you want a quick out of the box ability to loop, the KP3 may be what you want (and it is hella fun) however like mentioned above, it has it's limitations. Ableton is a bit more confusion, but you will benefit in the long run for learning this application
Ableton comes loaded with a looper now and I've started to become more familiar with using the loop capability of ableton along with the aid of a foot controlled midi device *Behringer FCB1010* (this allows you to play an instrument with your hands and still be able to loop).
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHFCB1010
You could also use that foot pedal to control a KP3 loop bank as well.
Check this video out showing a guy loop with Ableton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXOosbEREPs
If you want a quick out of the box ability to loop, the KP3 may be what you want (and it is hella fun) however like mentioned above, it has it's limitations. Ableton is a bit more confusion, but you will benefit in the long run for learning this application
Ableton comes loaded with a looper now and I've started to become more familiar with using the loop capability of ableton along with the aid of a foot controlled midi device *Behringer FCB1010* (this allows you to play an instrument with your hands and still be able to loop).
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHFCB1010
You could also use that foot pedal to control a KP3 loop bank as well.
Check this video out showing a guy loop with Ableton:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXOosbEREPs
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