Playing audio clips live

[metaprog]

Hello,

What is the best way to play several small audio clips while playing the keyboard in set list mode on stage ? With samples converted to programs then incuded in combinations ? With the sequencer and locate button, but will the samples be loaded and saved in set lists ?

Thanks
Meta

[Michael Svenning]

Hi Meta.

I'm playing audio live from my Kronos. I have created a Song/Seq to each of our bands song, and assigned my audio to output 3+4 in each Song/Seq. Also have I added each Seq to my Setlist. So I'm playing in Setlist-Mode, and my audio will now follow each Seq I'm playing.

Is it something like this, you are looking for?

Best regards,
Michael - Denmark

[RonF]

Hello,

What is the best way to play several small audio clips while playing the keyboard in set list mode on stage ? With samples converted to programs then incuded in combinations ? With the sequencer and locate button, but will the samples be loaded and saved in set lists ?

Thanks
Meta

You always have to load your samples. They do not get loaded or saved by a set list. Look into RPPR. Also Multi Sampling. Theres a few ways to do what you may want to do. You may even find that using disc mode directly as a play source may work for your situation!

[BrickPilot]

Hello,

What is the best way to play several small audio clips while playing the keyboard in set list mode on stage ? With samples converted to programs then incuded in combinations ? With the sequencer and locate button, but will the samples be loaded and saved in set lists ?

Thanks
Meta

I did what you're describing by creating a multisample and saving it as a program, then adding the program to a combi. I use the pads to trigger the individual clips... well, actually using an FCB1010 to send the CC110-117, but same thing essentially.

[metaprog]

Thanks for your replies....

I am gonna try this and let you know.

Meta.

[CaptLego]

Hello,

What is the best way to play several small audio clips while playing the keyboard in set list mode on stage ? With samples converted to programs then incuded in combinations ? With the sequencer and locate button, but will the samples be loaded and saved in set lists ?

Thanks
Meta

I did what you're describing by creating a multisample and saving it as a program, then adding the program to a combi. I use the pads to trigger the individual clips... well, actually using an FCB1010 to send the CC110-117, but same thing essentially.

I did this, and it works fine until I reboot the Kronos. Then the samples don't play. I then manually load the multisample .KMP file, but still no joy. The program's Osc seems to have lost its connection to the multisample. I'm still confused about all this stuff ... Saving, loading, the various file types, etc. Can somebody provide a walk through telling me how, once it is all working, what I need to do so that it will all work again after I cycle power?

[ScoobyDoo555]

This same thing happened to me after several hours of sampling
At the time there was a misconception that "save all" actually did what it said!!
Sorted in Vers 1.5

But in the meantime, I got around it by saving all the samples -

(taken from karma-labs)
.KSC, .KMP, .KSF files:
Lists of sample and multisamples (.KSC file), multisamples (.KMP file), samples (.KSF file)

If you save all sample data, this is what is saved.

Unless I've misunderstood what you're asking - I not at my Kronos right now, and it's been a couple of months since I did this, so my memory's a bit rusty!!

Dan

[CaptLego]

Thanks for the response, Scooby

I think I have it working, but am not sure I have the most elegant solution.
Here's a more detailed summary of my process:

Created a new multisample
Renamed the multisample
Converted the multisample to a program
Used the program in a combi
Added the combi to a setlist

So far, so good. Everything is working. Here's the challenge:
At this point, I want to be able to power down the Kronos, power it back up and be in the state is was in when powered down.

I saved the sample data, saved the program, wrote the setlist, even did a save all. But when I powered up the machine, that program would display "sample data not loaded". Loading the multisample (.KMP?) file manually did not get the program working. Plus, I don't want to have to manually load anything each time it is powered up. I just want to power up and play.

The only solution I've found so far, is to go to global/ auto load ksc page, and check the box for the saveall .ksc to be loaded at boot up.

This works. But isn't there a way to just load the single multisample that that program needs? Or isn't there a way to tell Kronos that I want to power up in exactly the state it was when powered down?

[keekma]

Thanks for the response, Scooby

I think I have it working, but am not sure I have the most elegant solution.
Here's a more detailed summary of my process:

Created a new multisample
Renamed the multisample
Converted the multisample to a program
Used the program in a combi
Added the combi to a setlist

So far, so good. Everything is working. Here's the challenge:
At this point, I want to be able to power down the Kronos, power it back up and be in the state is was in when powered down.

I saved the sample data, saved the program, wrote the setlist, even did a save all. But when I powered up the machine, that program would display "sample data not loaded". Loading the multisample (.KMP?) file manually did not get the program working. Plus, I don't want to have to manually load anything each time it is powered up. I just want to power up and play.

The only solution I've found so far, is to go to global/ auto load ksc page, and check the box for the saveall .ksc to be loaded at boot up.

This works. But isn't there a way to just load the single multisample that that program needs? Or isn't there a way to tell Kronos that I want to power up in exactly the state it was when powered down?

I also use the convert to program option. You can save your single multi samples in a KSC file. Use diskmode for this operation. Also you can autoload this file in global mode using the autoload KSC option. Here you can add your KSC file with the single multisample. When you do this correctly it is autoload when you boot youre Kronos. It works fine by me.

Koen.

[ronnfigg]

Hey Capt.i had the same problem. I think this is the fix. ever notice when you go to save a .KSC file you get the error message saying that file already exists? notice also that it doesn't give you an option to overwrite anyway. What I have done in the past is to completely erase all the KSC,KMP, etc files and then do a save all. Since every thing is in memory it will all get written togetherwith a new KSC file. Just don't lose power! I always make a new folder and a new PCG,KSC, etc save in this folder

[metaprog]

Yes, saving the multisample in .ksc is the fix. To be added to the ksc autoload list. Thanks for your interest and your replies.

On top of this, you can put in constant pitch, adjust the release on maximum in the program, and assign this program to a single key in the combi, then send to the set list. Just hit the key and it will play the whole audio clip...but be carefull in live if you hit it by mistake ...


Thanks again for your time.
Meta.

[Shakil]

If you use audio tracks, then you get two dvantages:

1. No need to load samples. The audio clicp will stream from the SSD.
2. You can play/pause/stop any where. With the sample, you always have to retrigger from the start.

[Dniss]

It may not be the best way to do it but since I often play on top of samples, I assign the multi-samples to an audio track in song mode, and set each midi tracks with the prgms I need for that "scene". And since you can enter 16 audio tracks and 16 midi tracks, I find it leaves me with more options.

When I turn on the unit I load (manually) the .sng file and everything is there.

When that song is assigned to a set list slot, I do have to press "play" for the sample to start but I find I have better control over it this way, and it leaves the kb free for other stuff.

Also if I use the same song for the very next slot in the set list, when I select the second slot, the sample will keep playing (and not restart), so I can change instruments by setting a different track number in that second slot.

[ferchis]

sorry guys, I was just wondering how to do this exactly the way the OP wanted.

I'm going to reread all this and try to digest it, but just by skimming I get that you CAN actually preload all your samples from the boot startup and then just play them within a combi by pressing a key. is that right?

could I just get the samples from a WAV file and "insert" them into Kronos with a pendrive, then convert them to sample data, or should I do that BEFORE inserting all that data into the pendrive, and then into the Kronos to convert it into a program?

thanks!

[joe in VA]

To power back up where you were when you powered down, Go to the global basic tab, and under system preferences->power on mode, select memorize. Then on the upper right drop down, select write global settings.

I can't help with the rest, but soon I will be in this territory, so thanks for starting this thread.