PETITION KORG POLL for KARMA 3 for KRONOS

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Would you buy Karma 3 for Kronos?

YES
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NO
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PETITION KORG POLL for KARMA 3 for KRONOS

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Hi all, I want to establish this poll so we can petition Korg to re-negotiate a new licencing deal with Stephen Kay so that Kronos owners can get Karma 3.

I think it preferable to keep ALL personal opinions and ideas and other "wishings" out of the thread, all we really need are votes - and LOTS of them!!

If you want to post comments that are "encouraging" to Korg or you think can help persuade them, then I think that is fine :)

I am not suggesting it is free, but if it is priced at around the same as the Yamaha Motif version of Karma 3 then that would be fair. (I seem to recall reading somewhere on the Karma Forums that the suggested price for Motif Karma was about $160? USD - perhaps SK or someone could confirm this?)

Can you all please PLEASE support this as Karma 3 is totally amazing and "eats" Karma 2.5!! which is, as I understand it, the highest version Korg have licenced.
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hi and thank you for informing us about Karma 3.0 :)
I had no idea it was taken to a new level, but whether or not ill get it depends on the price tag that comes with it and if its external or internal (kronos)
If its like u said that Korg has a license for karma 2.5 then i guess its an external program like the one for Yamaha. I do not think i would upgrade until i can wrap my head around how Karma works internally in the Kronos. I think i would buy the "karma kronos software" first to learn more about "karma". My next kronos project is exactly this.

BUT... as much i would like to have Karma 3 in my kronos i do not think Mr Kay would do this for free. I think he is a business man as well as a genius programmer :)

[darn typo]

[additional]
After watching the youtube clip im confused..namm 2011 (???) its like a year ago and the kronos is from july/august 2011?

note to self: keep up with important musical news..
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Oscar for Stephen Kay for KARMA ------Our Korg gained 100% functional
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Not having a Motif, I have not paid attention to Karma 3. What has it got compared with Karma 2.5 ?

Before voting, it would be useful to know what you would be voting for. Is there a Karma 2.5 vs 3.0 comparison anywhere ?
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I'm going to make this a Sticky Topic for a while......
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Francois wrote:Not having a Motif, I have not paid attention to Karma 3. What has it got compared with Karma 2.5 ?

Before voting, it would be useful to know what you would be voting for. Is there a Karma 2.5 vs 3.0 comparison anywhere ?
Have a look at this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD8cdxxE ... r_embedded

It's way more advanced....
Sort of like all the benifits of KARMA and an Arranger in one, plus way more.

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Yamaha may have negotiated exclusive rights to v3 KARMA - particularly feasible given that Korg don't have it already on the K and neither party is suggesting it's an option.

I do hope the relationship is an ongoing one (korg/Kay).
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The power of Korg: Kronos, Oasys, M3, M50, etc - that 50% of the Karma.
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cello wrote:Yamaha may have negotiated exclusive rights to v3 KARMA - particularly feasible given that Korg don't have it already on the K and neither party is suggesting it's an option.

I do hope the relationship is an ongoing one (korg/Kay).
AKAIK, there are no "exclusive rights" whatsoever for K3...SK has done it all off his own bat. I believe all Yamaha have provided is sysex data and other propietary data so he can get to run on a Yamaha.

The downside for Yammie users is that you MUST have a PC on stage connected to the Motif to use it.

I do not believe this would be necessary on a Kronos as all the control mappings seem to be all pretty much already in the Korg OS...

A PC would be needed (unless Korg re-write a bit of OS code) to allow the 16 scene selection options available on Karma 3, and the Karma for Kronos PC editor...

Being a novice to Karma, this is stuff I am only making "guess-timates" about only, but based around some logic and initial use. Plus I was looking at a Karma for M50 package and trialling it ages ago on a PC. :D

Anyway it's a good response so far, so let's really send a "message" to Korg!!!! :)
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Sharp wrote:Have a look at this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD8cdxxE ... r_embedded

It's way more advanced....
Sort of like all the benifits of KARMA and an Arranger in one, plus way more.
Actually, I finally released my own video a few weeks ago that gives a pretty good overview:

KARMA Motif Video Introduction

...even though the software is not yet released, but it's getting really close. ;)

I'll try to explain a bit more about the relationships involved a little later...
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Post by miden »

Thanks for the link SK...it is looking sooooo good!!!!!

Seriously guys, I really have to STRONGLY recommend everyone check this out!!!!

Spectacular!!! I reckon anyone who votes no, has NOT seen this vid!!
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Post by miden »

over 186 views and only 28 people can bother to simply put a check in the box??!!!!

If you take the time to check the thread, please take an extra second to place a vote.....it is pretty clear in the title, so obviously people looking have SOME interest in Karma.....
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StephenKay wrote:Actually, I finally released my own video a few weeks ago that gives a pretty good overview:

KARMA Motif Video Introduction

...even though the software is not yet released, but it's getting really close. ;)

I'll try to explain a bit more about the relationships involved a little later...
Wow, Stephen, that really a big step forward in the KARMA possibilities, i love the new intro and fill approach.
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miden wrote:over 186 views and only 28 people can bother to simply put a check in the box??!!!!

If you take the time to check the thread, please take an extra second to place a vote.....it is pretty clear in the title, so obviously people looking have SOME interest in Karma.....
I think the views count includes people who were not logged in. The only way to vote is when you're logged in. Thus the discrepancy.

I voted "yes"!
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