Layered effects on the KP3

Beowolf · Post by **Beowolf** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:23 am

Hello. I haven't purchased a Kaoss pad yet, but I will probably get the KP3 and I want to be able to use various FX as well as the delay effect to delay the prior FX output. How flexible is the KP3 in terms of using multiple effects simultaneously?

Also, when you are playing a sample loop, can you modulate the output of the sample loop while it plays, or is the sample loop modified along with any other input that is being pushed through the KP3?

Thanks,

Brent

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:35 am

Beowolf wrote:Hello. I haven't purchased a Kaoss pad yet, but I will probably get the KP3 and I want to be able to use various FX as well as the delay effect to delay the prior FX output. How flexible is the KP3 in terms of using multiple effects simultaneously?

Not flexible at all - it doesn't do it. The KP3 processes one effect program simultaneously. Some of the effect programs are things like BPF & Delay or such, but in terms of effects, you pretty much get what you're given. If you want to run a lot of effects at once, you may want to look at running it in series with another KP3 or maybe a mini-KP or two.

Also, when you are playing a sample loop, can you modulate the output of the sample loop while it plays, or is the sample loop modified along with any other input that is being pushed through the KP3?

The effects on the pad are on everything that is playing at that time - input + loops.

Beowolf · Post by **Beowolf** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:50 am

Thanks for your prompt reply.

GatorNutz · Post by **GatorNutz** » Mon May 14, 2012 9:13 pm

I have a KP3, and wish I would have known this previous to purchasing!

So, is it not possible to save multiple programs, and then control the combinations?

I have a guitar as input, and out to an amp.

For example, I CAN do the following:
- Configure Md.10 (Fuzz) using "Hold", then save to Program Memory 1
- Configure LFO.8 (Flanger) using "Hold", then save to Program Memory 2

However, I can only apply 1 OR 2...not both simultaneously. I cannot figure out how to combine multiple Program Memory spots.

For example...play a couple of bars using Fuzz (PM1), then add in Flanger (PM2) for a bar or two. In this scenarios, both 1 and 2 would be selected (active) and illuminated.

Is this not possible?

Thanks!

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Mon May 14, 2012 9:37 pm

No. The KP3 is NOT designed as a highly flexible studio fx unit. It is an intuitive and tactile interface to control an effect in a live situation. Kinda like what the iPad is to a full fledged pc.

For a good guitar multi fx solution, get a multi fx pedal. If you really need the Kaoss finger interface (which I doubt since you can't use it anyways while playing guitar) get two, or three, or however many fx you want to combine.

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Tue May 15, 2012 3:32 am

but you can always resample if you want to combine things together.

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Tue May 15, 2012 4:33 am

The Kaoss Pad Quad is more suited for a guitarist who wants the Kaoss experience.

You can layer 3 different effects at the same time...but there is no way to save your custom settings. I think the quad is more like a test product to see how well they could implement multi-effects in a Kaoss Pad

GatorNutz · Post by **GatorNutz** » Tue May 15, 2012 3:23 pm

SMK wrote:You can layer 3 different effects at the same time..

How so? Can I have 3 effects at once? I can't figure out how to do this!

EuroHobbes · Post by **EuroHobbes** » Wed May 16, 2012 11:29 am

GatorNutz wrote:
SMK wrote:You can layer 3 different effects at the same time..
How so? Can I have 3 effects at once? I can't figure out how to do this!

The KP3 can't. The Kaoss Pad Quad can, it's a different device: http://korg.com/kaosspadquad

I have to ask: why didn't you do a bit more research on a machine that isn't exactly cheap? If you wanted to use more than one effect at the time why didn't you check if it could actually do it?

roblabs · Post by **roblabs** » Wed May 16, 2012 3:11 pm

Sorry but you're wrong - the kp3 CAN have 3 different effects going...this can be achieved thru resampling. Ex: resample a delay onto b ank A, then resample that with a filter onto B, then resample a modulation onto C, etc. Granted, I'm sure the Quad will sound better, but usijng this method it is definitely possible to layer multiple effects together.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Wed May 16, 2012 5:27 pm

But you can't on live input, which seems to be what the OP wants. Though I can't figure out how you'd play guitar and use the touchpad at the same time anyways.
Also, with resampling you can't influence an effect once you've resampled it.
So no, by most definitions, you can't layer fx with the KP3.

xmlguy · Post by **xmlguy** » Wed May 16, 2012 10:21 pm

If you want multieffects, the DigiTech IPB-10 Programmable Pedalboard for iPad is a much better choice than the KP3.

The KP3 does do multieffects, but in a very specific manner. You can only use one program at a time, but many programs are a combination of effects, such as a low pass filter plus distortion plus delay. You can't change the structure of the effects. You can apply only one program at a time to the live audio during resampling, but you can resample anything that's currently playing with a different effect each time. This gives layered effects when they are applied in series as part of the resampling workflow, but you still can't use more than one program at a time.

With the Digitech, you can set up a chain of multiple effects in series that work in realtime without sampling. That's completely different than how the KP3 works.

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Thanks.