KARO libraries

Vova Ida · Post by **Vova Ida** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:13 pm

I got "TOTAL CONTROL 1",
It's ok.

mathieumaes · Post by **mathieumaes** » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:05 pm

Can you post a demo ?

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:53 am

SanderXpander wrote:Qui Robinez has made only synth sounds, no acoustic sample-based things.

completely true,

there are two reasons for this:
1. i'm only interested in synth sounds, so acoustic sounds are not really my line of expertise. Off course there will be sampled packages available from me when VMT is available in OS2.0, but these will all be based on electronic devices like samples from the real jupiter 8, jp8000 or a minimoog for instance. That kind of sample sessions are easy to do for me in my studio.
2. it's rather expensive to hire a symphonic orchestra for a sample session, and resampling commercial libraries is not allowed and definitly a no go area for me

My personal opinion, if you are looking for acoustic enhancements then KARO is a great choice for that, he has proven to deliver quality soundsets.

if you want to take a cheaper road and you have Native Instruments Kontakt, you could always resample those libraries for personal use. It's really easy to do and then you have those libraries in your kronos.

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:22 pm

mathieumaes wrote:Basari, I think you're missing my point... Being paid for something doesn't mean you're actually good at it. A paid service isn't by definition a better service compared to free alternatives.

i totally agree, there are a lot of good sounds available for free these days for many synths by some really skilled sounddesigners.

Saying that people that give away things for free don't know a lot about programming doesn't make yourself a better programmer. Also asking money for things doesnt make you a better programmer.

The only real measurement is the end'-user of the sounds. He / she decides if the sounds are up to his or her expectations, that's what count

I give away some things for free, that's not because i don't know what i'm doing when i program sounds. Actually, i have a very deep knowledge of the theory of soundprogramming on many area's like: FM synthesis, Additative Synthesis, substractive synthesis and many more. I also worked in the past as a paid sound designer for synth companies to create commercial soundsets and synth demo's.

But i really think that someone's résumé or the fact that he or she give away things for free shouldn't be a measurement for someone's skill level. Let the sounds he or she creates speak for themselves.

MarPabl · Post by **MarPabl** » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:50 pm

+1

mathieumaes · Post by **mathieumaes** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:56 am

Here's another example:
Jean-Michel Jarre has used the Roland Ax Synth on tour. The programs that he used were created by a guy named Oliver. Oliver has been so kind to offer those programs freely through official Roland UK channels and are now available for download. Free!

KorgisKing · Post by **KorgisKing** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:24 pm

Do u guys who are against Free patches work 4 Korg ? That would explain y u r so much in favor of us paying 4 a bunch of crap all the time.

KorgisKing · Post by **KorgisKing** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:42 pm

We need killer Electric Guitar & MiniMoog library free or for a decent price for the Kronos everything else is covered as far as great sounds. Why keep pushing pianos/string libraries on us we need Electric Guitar & MiniMoog basses.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:10 am

It's really easy to do decent mini-ish basses on the Kronos, in my humble opinion. Unless you actually want to trigger a sampled filter-sweep, the Kronos VAs do quite well.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:48 am

This guy is demanding and giving his expertise before he even owns a Kronos.
He should come back (or perhaps not) after getting his Kronos and having learned to program patches for some months, which may suit his needs.

The problem is not so much "us paying 4 a bunch of crap all the time" (nobody has to buy any library), but us real users reading threads and stumbling upon all the same crap from the same poster all the time.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:20 am

KorgisKing wrote:We need killer Electric Guitar & MiniMoog library free or for a decent price for the Kronos everything else is covered as far as great sounds. Why keep pushing pianos/string libraries on us we need Electric Guitar & MiniMoog basses.

Who is 'we' ? I play in a live band and for me Electric Guitar is not critical.

cello · Post by **cello** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:44 am

jimknopf wrote:He should come back (or perhaps not) after getting his Kronos and having learned to program patches for some months, which may suit his needs.

Exactly!

jimknopf wrote:The problem is not so much "us paying 4 a bunch of crap all the time" (nobody has to buy any library), but us real users reading threads and stumbling upon all the same crap from the same poster all the time.

Of late it seems like we've got GearSlut type posters...

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:08 pm

KorgisKing wrote:That would explain y u r so much in favor of us paying 4 a bunch of crap all the time.

Why wouldn't i make you pay? Give me a valid and solid reason, don't tell me
that i should be nice and share but give me a valid reason for it. You see this post
here: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=73960
Jeremy nicely posted it, it can help many people but nobody took interest
to talk about it e tc...all i know is tomorrow people will start asking for this
sound for FREE while probably nobody took interest in this tutorial.

QuiRobinez · Post by **QuiRobinez** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:43 pm

my opinion is that there is nothing wrong with selling soundsets. If someone wants to sell his or her sounds then that's fine by me.

for instance, i bought a lot of soundsets from the Motifmart for my yamaha XS. there can be all kind of reasons to buy soundsets:

- 1. time: it takes a lot of time to create good sounding patches. So for the yamaha xs i've bought the soundsets to save that time for other things i liked to do. I could have easely programmed those sounds myself, but i found the quality of the soundsets that good that i've spent the money to buy them and saved a lot of time by buying those sets.

- 2. Inspiration: For me this is one of the most important part of buying soundsets. Creating original sounds is a very creative proces. It's not hard to recreate those 'signature' presets like snarling pig or the sound from jump, but sounds that instantly give inspiration are rare and in my opinion worth to be sold.

- 3. Lack of skills: when someone has no clue how to program a sound then it's good that there are libraries like the ones from KARO to choose from to add fresh sounds to your own library.

in the early synthdays you would buy a synth with 32 sounds, that was it. In the current days people instantly have access to 1000's of sounds which in my opinion is a good thing, because 'commercial' sounddesigners really have to do their best to be a real addon value to the sounds that already are available.

The best part is: the end user decides if the sounddesigner is good enough to spent their money on the soundsets, and i'm a strong believer that sounddesigners that deliver quality still can sell their soundsets, they only have to work harder to create something special.

Ernie Applelips · Post by **Ernie Applelips** » Thu Aug 02, 2012 12:55 pm

QuiRobinez wrote:in the early synthdays you would buy a synth with 32 sounds, that was it.

My first synth, the Octave Cat had no sounds at all, that's why to this day it's still the one synth that I can program well, I had no choice but to learn it.