Load Microkorg XL patches into R3

Artmuzz · Post by **Artmuzz** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:37 pm

I am a proud owner of the Korg R3 but today I was in my local music store trying out the Microkorg XL. There were a few presets on the Microkorg XL like the patch "FROM2036" that isn't on the R3. Is it possible to get that Microkorg XL patch transferred to the R3?

thehighesttree · Post by **thehighesttree** » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:31 pm

No. You'd have to open each editor and try to replicate its values in an R3 patch, as far as I know.

Artmuzz · Post by **Artmuzz** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:49 pm

Ok, its just that I don't want to spend more money on buying a MicroKorg XL just for a few sounds when it could be possible to get those patches on my Korg R3 considering they are more or less have the same synth engine.

thehighesttree · Post by **thehighesttree** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:24 pm

Man, learn to program. You'll have ALL THE POSSIBLE SOUNDS OF THE SYNTH ENGINE at your disposal, so you'll be able to blow the MKXL out of the water with the R3's extras.

axxim · Post by **axxim** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:22 pm

What thehigesttree meant is, that you can download the MKXL editor, look if in the download section of this forum there are the MKXL factory preset patches, load them and then you will see the settings for the patch without the need of having an MKXL. Then you open aside the R3 editor and transcribe those settings in it. You may have some difficulties to recreate a MKXL patch if it uses a PCM sample the R3 hasnt. But for the rest you will be able to resemble every patch on your R3

Artmuzz · Post by **Artmuzz** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:23 pm

thehighesttree wrote:Man, learn to program. You'll have ALL THE POSSIBLE SOUNDS OF THE SYNTH ENGINE at your disposal, so you'll be able to blow the MKXL out of the water with the R3's extras.

I know how to program synths and I am good at programming them and been creating my own sounds on synths for nearly 20 years. Its just that I was worried the patch may of used a sampled sounds thats not on the R3. I'll get my programming talents on the go and see if I can recreate it.

Artmuzz · Post by **Artmuzz** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:41 pm

Ok, I have downloaded the Microkorg XL editor and loaded in the preset I am wanting on my R3. It looks like this will be possible as it uses oscillator 1 DWGS Noise1 and for oscillator 2 its uses pulse waveform. I am sure that PCM sample is on the R3. Does anyone know how I can transcribe that into a format that my R3 can read with out manually adjusting my synth parameters on my R3 to those readings?

thehighesttree · Post by **thehighesttree** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:04 pm

Didn't mean to come off as a flame post, you raise a good point and (once again) axxim did a good job clarifying info. I'm almost certain there's a number of DWGS sounds prefixed "noise*" so you should be able to do this. As far as I've heard, there's only a couple of the PCM/DWGS sounds that are different on the MKLX (like piano).

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:06 pm

No way to do it but manually. Shouldn't be too hard though, neither synth is that deep.

axxim · Post by **axxim** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:04 pm

Artmuzz wrote:Ok, I have downloaded the Microkorg XL editor and loaded in the preset I am wanting on my R3. It looks like this will be possible as it uses oscillator 1 DWGS Noise1 and for oscillator 2 its uses pulse waveform. I am sure that PCM sample is on the R3. Does anyone know how I can transcribe that into a format that my R3 can read with out manually adjusting my synth parameters on my R3 to those readings?

Do you also have the R3 editor? If yes, then just put both editors side by side, cllick at the pots and controls of the MKXL to see their value and then transcribe (adjust that values) in the corresponding control of the R3 editor. It takes less than 10 min. once you got a little practice with it. If you haven't worked with the R3 editor yet, you should do it!

Artmuzz · Post by **Artmuzz** » Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:20 pm

Ok, I managed to successfully duplicate that sound I heard on the Microkorg XL onto my R3 by just looking at the parameters on the Microkorg XL editor and just manually adjusting the parameters on my Korg R3's front panel. I am really impressed with this synth and its very versatile.

Artmuzz · Post by **Artmuzz** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:14 am

One thing I found out when editing that preset on my R3 by copying manually the parameters on the MkXL editor is that oscillator 2 on the MkXL has Pulse wave yet on the R3 the Pulse wave has been renamed Square wave on oscillator 2. Hmm! strange. Also, there are patch destinations on the MkXL that aren't on the R3. At close inspection it looks like the MkXL has 34 patch destinations plus 6 user patch destinations where as the R3 only has 15 patch destinations. Boo

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 2:15 pm

Artmuzz wrote:One thing I found out when editing that preset on my R3 by copying manually the parameters on the MkXL editor is that oscillator 2 on the MkXL has Pulse wave yet on the R3 the Pulse wave has been renamed Square wave on oscillator 2. Hmm! strange. Also, there are patch destinations on the MkXL that aren't on the R3. At close inspection it looks like the MkXL has 34 patch destinations plus 6 user patch destinations where as the R3 only has 15 patch destinations. Boo

Yes, the mkxl has the additional patch destinations that the Radias has, but they never found their way into the R3.
If you want to mimic a patch that has these features, you may be able to replicate the LFO or Envelope motion with the Mod Sequencer though, which does have many more patch destinations than the Virtual Patch section.

Artmuzz · Post by **Artmuzz** » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:29 pm

It seems very strange why the extra patch destinations never made it to the Korg R3 considering that the R3 is seen as the sound designers synth compared to the MkXL. Fortunately I am a proud owner of the Korg M3 xpanded with the Radias card installed so the lack of extra patch destinations on my R3 wasn't a loss as I recreated that MkXL patch on my M3 with all of the 34 patch destinations of the RAdias and MkXL at hand.