Believe I Just Saw Korgs Big Announcement..I need answers
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Considering there are plenty of other real time controls, I'm actually glad they went with a resistive and not a capacitive (iPad style) touch screen, as the former is much more reliable when there's heat and moisture around (read: on stage). Though it could have been a bit bigger, I agree.
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Agreed. Just because capacitive touch screens are trendy at the moment, doesn't mean they're superior in all situations. I believe that resistive touch screens are often capable of higher resolutions than capacitive panels, as well as being more robust.SanderXpander wrote:Considering there are plenty of other real time controls, I'm actually glad they went with a resistive and not a capacative (iPad style) touch screen, as the former is much more reliable when there's heat and moisture around (read: on stage). Though it could have been a bit bigger, I agree.
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I fully suport what you both say, as I am agree.SeedyLee wrote:Agreed. Just because capacitive touch screens are trendy at the moment, doesn't mean they're superior in all situations. I believe that resistive touch screens are often capable of higher resolutions than capacitive panels, as well as being more robust.SanderXpander wrote:Considering there are plenty of other real time controls, I'm actually glad they went with a resistive and not a capacative (iPad style) touch screen, as the former is much more reliable when there's heat and moisture around (read: on stage). Though it could have been a bit bigger, I agree.
Besides of being more robust and giving more resolution, the resistive screen on kronos does not prevent for the integration of tools like piano roll or track edit features, for example, which can be also controled with buttons from the screen and even Kronos real time controls, as we have seen.
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Re: Believe I Just Saw Korgs Big Announcement..I need answer
Good demo (HD):Amos922 wrote:Believe I Just Saw Korgs Big Announcement..I need answers
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I had a play with a KROME today and the touch screen is definitely resistive, not capacative. Also, it's much smaller and considerably lower resolution that the screen in the KRONOS.
As I mentioned before, there is not reason drag-and-drop actions can't be achieved using a resistive panel. Palm, Psion and Windows CE devices were doing drag-and-drop in the 1990s, and my Nokia N800 with resistive screen even did multi-touch.
But on the whole, I still prefer the editing experience on the KRONOS, mainly because of the increased information density.
As I mentioned before, there is not reason drag-and-drop actions can't be achieved using a resistive panel. Palm, Psion and Windows CE devices were doing drag-and-drop in the 1990s, and my Nokia N800 with resistive screen even did multi-touch.
But on the whole, I still prefer the editing experience on the KRONOS, mainly because of the increased information density.
Current Equipment:
Korg Kronos 2 88, Reface CS, Roland JV-1080, TE OP1, Moog Subsequent 37, Korg ARP Odyssey, Allen & Heath Zed 18, Adam F5, MOTU MIDI Express XT, Lexicon MX200 & MPX1, Yamaha QY700, Yamaha AW16G, Tascam DP008ex, Zoom H6, Organelle, Roland J6 & JU06A
Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One
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Previous: Triton LE 61/Sampling/64MB/4GB SCSI, MS2000BR, Kronos 1 61, Monotribe, NanoKontrol, NanoKeys, Kaossilator II, Casio HT3000, Roland VP-03, Reface DX, Novation Mininova, MPC One
Drag and drop can be accomplished on the Kronos. Just open up a menu and grab the slider bar and move it sideways, it will move with your finger. Not completely in real-time, but you can tell that it's following the movement of your finger.
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Really? Into sequencer ? Moving events graphically?RlaRed wrote:Drag and drop can be accomplished on the Kronos. Just open up a menu and grab the slider bar and move it sideways, it will move with your finger. Not completely in real-time, but you can tell that it's following the movement of your finger.

My Kronos is definitevely not the same than yours becase that is simply not possible.
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No what I'm saying is I think the screen could physically handle drag and drop. I believe they would just need to incorporate it into the software. Could be wrong, but that's why I mentioned the scroll bars, as they already seem to support drag and drop.
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You're right. It's just a programming issue, not an screen one.RlaRed wrote:No what I'm saying is I think the screen could physically handle drag and drop. I believe they would just need to incorporate it into the software. Could be wrong, but that's why I mentioned the scroll bars, as they already seem to support drag and drop.
I would like to check into manufacturer website if screen can also support multitouch.
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afaik no resistive screen supports multitouch. That is the main advantage of capacitive screens.
The M3 implemented drag-and-drop in the sequencer, but I guess the problem could be that the underlying code for the UI is substantially different to support that operation.
The M3 implemented drag-and-drop in the sequencer, but I guess the problem could be that the underlying code for the UI is substantially different to support that operation.
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Multitouch is the ability to press more than one point at a time (and have it recognise them as separate presses). Often used on smartphones to implement gestures like pinch zoom, more than anything else.
Some types of screen will allow you to press two or more points and it will 'think' you are pressing somewhere in the middle of thse points. This is not the same thing as multitouch.
Multitouch has nothing to do with drag-and-drop, but someone mentioned it.
Some types of screen will allow you to press two or more points and it will 'think' you are pressing somewhere in the middle of thse points. This is not the same thing as multitouch.
Multitouch has nothing to do with drag-and-drop, but someone mentioned it.
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Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro
Other Mfgrs: Moog Sub37, Roland Boutique JX03, Novation MiniNova, Akai APC40, MOTU MIDI TimePiece 2, ART Pro VLA, Focusrite Saffire Pro 40.
Past Gear: Korg Karma, TR61, Poly800, EA-1, ER-1, ES-1, Kawai K1, Novation ReMote37SL, Boss GT-6B
Software: NI Komplete 10 Ultimate, Arturia V Collection, Ableton Live 9. Apple OSX El Capitan on 15" MacBook Pro