KRONOS Patch Lists for OSX: midnam and middev files for DP8

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musicman50
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I've modified both the midnam and middev files

Post by musicman50 »

I fixed the problems with the KRONOS.midnam file so it now loads in Cherry Picker and I modified the Korg.middev file so the KRONS.midnam file is recognized by Audio MIDI setup. This allows the Kronos patch list to be seen if the Kronos is connected as a MIDI device using MIDI cables, but so far I haven't got the USB connection to Kronos to use the patch list. I'm using DP8.
I don't see a way to attach files to this post so if you want the files I've modified please contact me or explain how I can attach them to a post.

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Post by danatkorg »

To modify the generated midnam to work properly, open the midnam file in a text editor (e.g. TextEdit, Text Wrangler, BBEdit) and do the following:

1. Replace:

<Manufacturer>Korg</Manufacturer>
<Model>Kronos v2</Model>

with:

<Manufacturer>KORG INC.</Manufacturer>
<Model>KRONOS</Model>


2. Replace all instances of the following two characters (there will be roughly 2,000 instances, so do a Replace All instead of doing one at a time!):

&#

with the following three characters:

&#x


The midnam file should now work properly. I'm sorry for the inconvenience; this should hopefully be fixed in a future version of the editor.
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Post by danmusician »

Thanks, Dan!

That did the trick. I love that I can create up-to-date patch lists. Looking forward to the fix in the Editor app, but in the meantime, this is easy enough to do.

Appreciatively,

Dan M
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didn't work...

Post by jduesenb »

Sorry to be a bother over this, but after tweaking my KRONOS.midnam file as instructed, Digital Perf 7 still does not see the patch names.
I'm not sure I understand the audio and MIDI device names and setups described in this thread, so here's what I have:

(1) In Audio MIDI Setup, there is a USB MIDI device named KRONOS. It has two "ports": SOUND and KEYBOARD. MIDI data goes out to KRONOS via the SOUND port, and is received from KRONOS via KEYBOARD. AFAICS this setup is dictated by the Kronos MIDI/USB driver and is not alterable by me. This all works fine, for both MIDI output and input. I don't use the conventional MIDI ports at all.

(2) Also in Audio MIDI Setup (in the AUDIO DEVICES window), there is a 2-channel 48Khz device named KRONOS. I don't actually use this; I use a Metric Halo 2882 as the central D/A & A/D device.

(3) In DP and other MIDI software, you select "KRONOS SOUND-1", "KRONOS SOUND-2"... etc to transmit via MIDI channels 1-16 to the KRONOS. This is one place where the patch names would come into play; having selected say "KRONOS SOUND-1" for a track, I could then go to the "patch" assignment parameter and get a pulldown showing the patch names. But all I see is the usual "Patch 1... Patch 128" generic list.

(4) I've tried relocating the KRONOS.midnam file to various places suggested in this thread. It makes no difference; DP doesn't see the names.

Can you suggest something that might fix this? I'm certain that I edited the file correctly; TedxtEdit replaced precisely 2,818 instances of "&#" with "&#x"!

thanks... I hope... John D

danatkorg wrote:To modify the generated midnam to work properly, open the midnam file in a text editor (e.g. TextEdit, Text Wrangler, BBEdit) and do the following:

1. Replace:

<Manufacturer>Korg</Manufacturer>
<Model>Kronos v2</Model>

with:

<Manufacturer>KORG INC.</Manufacturer>
<Model>KRONOS</Model>


2. Replace all instances of the following two characters (there will be roughly 2,000 instances, so do a Replace All instead of doing one at a time!):

&#

with the following three characters:

&#x


The midnam file should now work properly. I'm sorry for the inconvenience; this should hopefully be fixed in a future version of the editor.
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Post by danmusician »

John,

Are you sure you have the .midnam in the correct library folder? It should be in the library folder on the hard drive directory, not your home directory.

Other than that , I don't know what to say. The patch list is showing up for me in DP 7.24.

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Post by musicman50 »

John,

Make sure you also make the changes is step 1 exactly as shown. You didn't mention that in your post. The values in Manufacturer and Model have to match the driver names exactly. You can see these names in Audio MIDI Setup if you double click on the KRONOS icon in the MIDI Studio Window.
Also be sure to place the midnam file in the directory:

/Library/Audio/MIDI Devices/MOTU

This works for me with DP8

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Post by KapnKrunch »

danatkorg wrote:To modify the generated midnam to work properly, open the midnam file in a text editor (e.g. TextEdit, Text Wrangler, BBEdit) and do the following:

1. Replace:

<Manufacturer>Korg</Manufacturer>
<Model>Kronos v2</Model>

with:

<Manufacturer>KORG INC.</Manufacturer>
<Model>KRONOS</Model>


2. Replace all instances of the following two characters (there will be roughly 2,000 instances, so do a Replace All instead of doing one at a time!):

&#

with the following three characters:

&#x


The midnam file should now work properly. I'm sorry for the inconvenience; this should hopefully be fixed in a future version of the editor.
I did this fix in Pro Tools (10.3.2) and it works beautifully! SWEET! This almost makes up for the lack of the Editor's RTAS support.

Thanks Dan!
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Post by Ojiro »

Hi, all. Coming a bit late to this post, but hoping that one of you might be able to help.

I succeeded in doing all the steps to get DP8 to recognize my kronos x as a device in a DP Track, and I can even see the bank of patch names. However, when I select a patch name (for example, I-C-4, The Kalimba), what I hear is not the Kalimba, but whatever sound is selected within the Kronos itself (whether I select via the Editor on my computer screen, or via the panel on my Kronos). There appears to be no relation between the patch name selected in DP and the actual patch selected in Kronos.

Is there any way to make the patch selections from within DP and have them control the selection within the Kronos? That would be convenient. Not a super critical issue, but it would be nice.

Thanks in advance!
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Post by Ojiro »

For some reason Kronos patch names have reverted to the "Patch 1," Patch 2," etc., and DP8 no longer recognises the Kronos bank names as it previously did. I went back to the Library folder and made sure that the above recommended changes to the Manufacturer/Model names (as well as the "&#x" replace) was/is all still in effect.

Any further progress by anyone else out there on this issue?
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Kronos,Mac and DP8?

Post by Robbyham »

I am having no luck loading the patches. Into my third day of trying using all the fixes. I checked with MOTU and they had no help to offer. Put it on the third party (KORG). We can still set up a sequence list in the Kronos editor and use DP to drive it, but that is an extra step. Anyone else?
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Korg Kronos .midnam

Post by Charlievv »

I am new to this forum and would like to know if anyone has created a .midnam file for the Kronos that they would be willing to email to me. I have tried with the editor to no avail.

Any help is appreciated

thanks
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