how to convert emx1 sm files to be emx1 sd compatible

sirkzz · Post by **sirkzz** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:48 am

my electribe is going out and I'd rather buy an new one than pay to get it fixed. is there a way I can get my patterns from the older model to put them in the newer one?[/img]

sohatyi · Post by **sohatyi** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 1:10 am

Out of interest, in what way is it going out? Anyway, if you do a full dump of the memory onto a SM card, you can put it onto a pc, transfer it onto an SD card and then do a full load on the new emx IIRC. I know the downloadable dump of the SD patterns works on the SM version of the machine.

sirkzz · Post by **sirkzz** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 2:29 am

sohatyi wrote:Out of interest, in what way is it going out? Anyway, if you do a full dump of the memory onto a SM card, you can put it onto a pc, transfer it onto an SD card and then do a full load on the new emx IIRC. I know the downloadable dump of the SD patterns works on the SM version of the machine.

the parameters are changing on their own. level, cutoff eg int etc. I read somewhere else it's probably going out and thinks its being changed when it isn't. they change so fast I can't even change patterns or stop it. they said they were quoted 500 for repair and I figure a new one is more sensible since I've had this one for going on three years

sohatyi · Post by **sohatyi** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:15 am

No, stop! Try the baking paper between the two boards trick, it could rectify it for free. There are tips on here how to do it. When that happens it is usually just the solder on the underside of the top board shorting on the large caps on the bottom board.

sirkzz · Post by **sirkzz** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:08 pm

sohatyi wrote:No, stop! Try the baking paper between the two boards trick, it could rectify it for free. There are tips on here how to do it. When that happens it is usually just the solder on the underside of the top board shorting on the large caps on the bottom board.

can you link me to some of the tips maybe some pics?

sohatyi · Post by **sohatyi** » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:43 pm

Look at the knob jitter sticky on this forum, I think it is in there. I'm typing on my phone so I'm a bit limited. Basic procedure is to take pot and slider covers off, take off hex screws, remove faceplate. Ensure you have a saucer or something to put the bits in. Take out the screws you need to, not the one by the screen and the arp, lift out the keyboard assembly and you'll see the lower board left in the chassis. Use the faceplate as a template to cut out a sheet of baking paper. Place baking paper over board, ensuring it is tucked in. Reassemble unit. That's it really. Hard to go wrong, just be careful with the top part of the unit ( I place it on a pillow) so you don't damage the pot stems.

psim210 · Post by **psim210** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 4:46 pm

I've rebuilt my EMX like 3 times. I have the baking paper in there and it worked for the shortages but I still suffer minor "knob jitter" but its not all crazy like the shortages between the boards was.

The "knob jitter" I get even after insulating the two PCBs, is subtle and infrequent but still annoying. it will change the parameter on certain knobs to there current physical position as if a signal had been detected of ever so slight movement on that specific pot. Also unlike the shorting PCBs it is only on certain pots.

I dont want to replace all my POTs

i want to buy a new SD EMX and convert.

Can we get back on that ^ original topic?

anybody else have any ideas?

or has anyone else tried to

do a full dump of the memory onto a SM card, you can put it onto a pc, transfer it onto an SD card and then do a full load on the new emx

Telengard · Post by **Telengard** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:11 pm

psim210 wrote: i want to buy a new SD EMX and convert.

Can we get back on that ^ original topic?

anybody else have any ideas?

Don't know if this info will help as I have an SD model, but I can load up (off of an SD card) the factory SM version on my EMX without any problem. I think if you can just dump it via the manual instructions to an SM card and dump that to an SD card, you won't have any problems. Might want to take the SD card to a music center that has an EMX-SD and see if you can load your patterns on it. I can't see why it won't work as the copies I have are directly from an SM machine. I would look in the manual, not under sysexe dump, though.

edit:
In the EMX easy start guide it has instructions:
1. Press GLOBAL mode -> press SHIFT and 13.
2. Use the VALUE dial to select card menu LOAD or SAVE.
3. Press Flashing 13 again.

This saves/loads it to/from your SM/SD card.

psim210 · Post by **psim210** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:44 pm

Sounds promising, I have all my patterns stored on a SM card I just need to find a way to convert them to an SD card.

Not Sure if I got you right on this but you say SM patterns on an SD card? Where did this come from? That could be a good lead on converting SM to SD

Telengard · Post by **Telengard** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 7:21 pm

psim210 wrote:Sounds promising, I have all my patterns stored on a SM card I just need to find a way to convert them to an SD card.

Not Sure if I got you right on this but you say SM patterns on an SD card? Where did this come from? That could be a good lead on converting SM to SD

Yes, I have copies of an SmartMedia version of the EMX that I put on my SD card to load in.

You need to do a CardMenu SavALL when saving the backup. See page 77 on the EMX1 Manual from the Korg website.

Can you get them onto your computer?
Do they have the extension of .EMX?
I might have missed something in the conversation, do you have an SM card reader? You can buy cheap ones that read a bunch of different formats (SM, SD, etc) that connect to your computer.

For example:

http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-Media-Multi ... B00007058Y

DrHoo · Post by **DrHoo** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:12 pm

Seems simple to me !

1.back up all required data from emx1 to smart media card. (Standard operation / Save all)
2.copy smart media card contents to empty folder on computer.(Good for a second back-up)
3.copy contents of folder to sd card.
4.load all contents to emx1sd from sd card.(Load all)

Do not rename or modify any files anywhere except in the emx1.

Does anyone know why this shouldn't work ?

The media card type is just a memory vessel right ?

Telengard · Post by **Telengard** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:20 pm

DrHoo wrote:Seems simple to me !

1.back up all required data from emx1 to smart media card. (Standard operation / Save all)
2.copy smart media card contents to empty folder on computer.(Good for a second back-up)
3.copy contents of folder to sd card.
4.load all contents to emx1sd from sd card.(Load all)

Do not rename or modify any files anywhere except in the emx1.

Does anyone know why this shouldn't work ? The media card type is just a memory vessel right ?

I believe it will work, I am almost positive that the copies I have haven't been converted just copied.

psim210 · Post by **psim210** » Sun Jul 07, 2013 10:43 pm

So far I have only ever used my SM card as a back up in case my unit shall ever fail me entirely (or more likely I kill it while attempting to repair it) so I have not invested in any card readers mainly because I figured there might be an easier conversion method out there but after this full day of searching I think you may have found my only way.

Thanks for all the help guys. Im going to order a card reader, probably the one in your link above and post back after trying my patterns from my SM on an SD on a floor model unit at a music shop.

Assuming it does work its only time and money keeping me from a new unit. I just know I am already looking at a $500 investment at least which is a fair chunk of change to me, easily worth it for these units but I'd like to keep my file conversion fees minimal.

Telengard · Post by **Telengard** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:14 am

psim210 wrote: Thanks for all the help guys. Im going to order a card reader, probably the one in your link above and post back after trying my patterns from my SM on an SD on a floor model unit at a music shop.

I just picked the first link that came up on my search for an example so you might want to look a bit more...

psim210 · Post by **psim210** » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:21 pm

for sure thanks again, I am going to see if I can find one in town first too, and not pay shipping/wait for it. I'll post back within a few weeks with results.

Korg Forums

how to convert emx1 sm files to be emx1 sd compatible

how to convert emx1 sm files to be emx1 sd compatible

im sick of rebuilding my unit

Re: im sick of rebuilding my unit